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06-16-2003, 09:12 AM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Door opening during travel...
How prone are the doors of the '71 vintage to opening suddenly while towing?
I have heard of this problem and the door bends out of shape.
The couple of times we towed I put a bungie across the door to help it incase it pops open but it looks really stupid.
Plus after I polish it this year I don't want to have to do that.
What are some nice clean ways to insure the door stays closed while under way?
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06-16-2003, 01:46 PM
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1 Rivet Member
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I have to lock mine. If I leave it unlocked, it will open! Cheers!
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06-17-2003, 09:04 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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The door area of any Airstream trailer, is the weakest part of the shell.
If the striker bolt or the striker pocket is worn, the door can fly open in transit, especially if a good bump it hit.
The same is true if the door is no longer aligned correctly.
Striker bolts and pockets wear rapidly, when towing with unbalanced running gear, increasing the chance of the door coming open in transit.
Check to make sure the striker bolt is engaging the striker pocket adequately.
Andy
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06-17-2003, 09:40 AM
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3 Rivet Member
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I have a suicide door so I still use one of
those ugly black rubber bungies.
As bad as it looks in transit it
dosen't look as bad as a wrecked door.
Heidi
'67 Caravel
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06-17-2003, 02:10 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
, Florida
Join Date: May 2002
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Ours has a deadbolt installed. No worries.
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06-17-2003, 06:28 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Mine too has a deadbolt ! But I think it was added after it flew open once, my door fits really bad , I have tried to straighten it out with no luck.
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06-18-2003, 11:07 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Deadbolts also keeps the thiefs looking for a trailer easier to break in to!!
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06-19-2003, 12:28 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Unfortunately, my door flew open even with the bungy. Once open, it pulled the hinges right out of the skin. Door was found a quarter of a mile down the freeway. Check the striker and striker plate as Andy warns but also check the hinge to skin connection. If your trailer spent any of its life near the ocean, there's a chance the aluminum rivets and skin are corroding under the stainless steel hinge plate.
Brad
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06-19-2003, 05:18 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Joshua
, Texas
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At several of the WBCCI Regional and International Rallies, folks have sold a wooden device that slides through the fixed grab handle on the skin and will hold the door in a closed position. I have followed several folks when their door came open and it is not a pretty sight when it happens.
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06-19-2003, 05:31 AM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
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deadbolts
I have installed a deadbolt on every Airstream I've had that didn't have one already installed. I put it on my first one, a '70 Safari because I lived in it and the neighborhood the park was in wasn't the best. However, I soon found out that they are invaluable for keeping the door closed during transit. They are inexpensive, and can be installed in about 30 minutes.
As I recall on the Safari, I installed the lockset in the wall of the hull just forward of the door and let the deadbolt enter the door. I had to do it that way because I didn't feel that the door had enough structure to support the lockset properly, and the only modification required to the door was to drill a hole through the side frame for the deadbolt to slide into. It looked and worked great when I was finished. I've had other trailers that had the traditional setup with the deadbolt in the door, though, so obviously that can be done too.
I can't think of a device that will do the job better or that adds more peace of mind, both from the door flying open, and security perspectives than installing a deadbolt.
Roger
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06-19-2003, 11:08 AM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dwight
At several of the WBCCI Regional and International Rallies, folks have sold a wooden device that slides through the fixed grab handle on the skin and will hold the door in a closed position. .
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Any pictures of this device? I would like to see one.
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06-19-2003, 11:13 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Joshua
, Texas
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I don't have a photo of one. They look like the letter "F". The upper part of the "F" hooks through the fixed grab handle and the bottom part of the "F" slides across the door to keep it closed.
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06-19-2003, 06:06 PM
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Rivet Master
South Shore
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I'll have to agree with Roger!
I've always been concerned about the door coming open so I added a dead bolt lock on the last Airstream that I owned. It was difficult but I drilled a hole to mount it on the flange of the door. After checking the measurements several times I finally did it. Every thing went well but the dead bolt was too wide for the door. I then took it to a machine shop and had the bolt cut so it was narrower. It worked fine and I've never had a door to come open on me.
The Airstream we now have already had a dead bolt lock.
Bill
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06-19-2003, 06:08 PM
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Rivet Master
South Shore
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When I say difficult in the last post, I mean that it was not easy to want to make a hole in the event that I made a miscalculation!
Bill
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06-19-2003, 08:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 25' Safari
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Kind of a dumb question, but----why isn't the door made to open in the opposite direction. While it wouldn't keep the door closed, the door also wouldn't catch the wind if it did come open. ( unless you're going backwards real fast. ) Wondered this when we purchased our unit, but since ours already has a dead bolt, it's not a problem, except to remember to turn the key before driving off.
Best,
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06-19-2003, 08:10 PM
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Rivet Master
South Shore
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A.E.
I've wondered that myself!
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06-19-2003, 08:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
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Because it would get in the way of the awning arms.
Ken
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06-20-2003, 08:03 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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It would also block the view from the front lounge on the larger models.
Andy
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06-20-2003, 10:46 AM
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LEV ZEPPELIN
2004 19' International CCD
Chicago
, Illinois
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I think it is actually a safety issue. On most buildings, I think it is code to have a door move outward in case of fire. I think in a panic situation, most people would general push a door outward, rather than have to pull the door inward, requiring one to probably have to back up, maybe into trouble.
I suppose a sad example of this are the two nightclub incidents that occured in Chicago, and Rhode Island.
Another thought would be that who wants a giant door inside their AS?
Jonathan
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06-20-2003, 08:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 25' Safari
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I think I might be misunderstood as to the direction of travel for the door. I wonder why it could not be attached on the other side of the frame, so it would swing out but towards the trailer front. I didn't mean for it to swing into the trailer. Aslo I always thought it was a code for doors on public building to swing outwards, however in Minnesota that apparently is not true, as most doors swing inwards. For that reason I am ALWAYS careful in going into public bathrooms when alone. A person which works were the wife does, had an experiance where he went into a restroom & was attacked. Because the door swung into the room the person blocked the door & he was easily trapped & robbed. Anyway I still think that if the doors swung towards the front of the trailer it would be better, but who knows.
Best,
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