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Old 02-11-2018, 09:03 AM   #43
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Out with the old, in with the new (Audio Visual upgrade)

Cut is straight forward but it must be exact (+/- 1mm) to the size of the radio bracket.

Some important things to have:

1. Make sure you have masking tape (so the laminate does not get scratched by the jigsaw)

2. A jigsaw (I rented one from Home Depot)

3. Fine laminate blade for jigsaw (otherwise you can tear up the laminate when cutting)

4. Pro tip - use these for your wire connections - they are a must! Donít bother with butt connectors or soldering. These are the pros choice

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00I1...JmL&ref=plSrch

5. A volt meter is handy if you have one when working with 12v devices

6. Donít forget a parking brake bypass module - these are made specific to the radio manufacturer AND model and are absolutely required for a double din system. If you do not install one you will be locked out of certain critical functions due to US law preventing the user from manipulating certain high cognitive load functions whilst driving. There is a secondary method to bypass (for pioneer at least) but is a pita.

For example, here is the one I used for a pioneer appradio 4:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NQL00W..._NqgGAbE1HE23A

7. Have some electrical tape handy to keep your install clean.

8. Have a good set of wire cutters / strippers handy for your connections

9. For speaker install have a good set needle nose pliers handy - I had to manipulate the female connectors on the factory wires to better grab the smaller Polk audio male speaker wire posts.

10. For your bracket - I couldnít find the same bracket previously posted in this thread... so I bought a generic one from eBay. Size matters - make sure that it is the correct size for the head unit you buy. Mine was 100mm - Universal Double DIN Car Stereo European Radio Sleeve Cage Mounting Kit 100mm US. It would be an irreversible disaster if you bought a bracket that was too big, then cut a hole in the upper cabinet check all
your fittings before you make any cuts.

11. I needed an adapter to make the existing microphone work with my particular head unit so that I could use speakerphone in the trailer with my Apple device. Bought on eBay - 2.5mm Mono Plug(Male) to 3.5mm Mono Jack(Female) Adaptor - Gold Plate.... youíll need to check the specs on your head unit to see if it has a 2.5mm female mono mic connector - the factory mic has a 3.5mm plug.

12. Have some double sided 3M VHB tape handy. Youíll need to cut a couple small strips to stick the mounting bracket faceplate trim on when the install is complete. Donít use too much so that you donít destroy the trim trying to take it off down the road...

13. Have a small philips screw driver handy for the tiny screws that come with the radio mounting bracket

14. Have your stock radio removal keys handy for removing the old radio (these would have come with the airstream when you bought it - hopefully you kept them, otherwise youíll need to order a new pair from eBay... the are head unit specific.

15. I used an electric drill with Philips screwdriver bit and low torque setting to remove / install speaker screws. 32 screws (removed /install) is not something you want to do by hand.

16. Pro tip - to remove the existing speaker grills from the $5 factory clarion speakers to gain access to their mounting screws use a small jackknife, put the blade between the metal grill and plastic frame and pry it out.

Thatís all I can think of off the top of my head... report back with a progress report - good luck!
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Perfect !

Thank you.

Last question.

Why did you not use the HDMI input? And did you have to buy separate split cables for the video inputs of the BlueRay and TV?
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Old 02-11-2018, 09:42 AM   #45
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Out with the old, in with the new (Audio Visual upgrade)

I didnít have a second splitter handy so I left audio flowing to the Television and then back to the head unit via the stereo RCA cables.

I may put a second hdmi splitter in at some point and leverage digital audio format delivery from dvd to head unit in the future ....
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Iíve been looking at various videos about the AppRadio. Couple of questions.
I saw where you can view videos on the screen from the iPhone by connecting an adaptor to the lower USB port in the back. Did you do this and did you run the lightening cables to be accessible anywhere for CarPlay and video?
Will the videos from the phone show on the TV screen by connecting the rca cables in back?
Did you consider rca to hdmi to run hdmi to the TV?
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I saw where you can view videos on the screen from the iPhone by connecting an adaptor to the lower USB port in the back. Did you do this and did you run the lightening cables to be accessible anywhere for CarPlay and video?
No, I use a separate Apple TV device for iPhone mirroring on my TV. For my setup, there is no point in pushing iPhone video to the AppRadio screen as I have a method to push directly to the 28" Samsung via HDMI.

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Will the videos from the phone show on the TV screen by connecting the rca cables in back?
They will not, out of the box. The only RCA cables that run from radio to TV is for audio, there is no composite video. You would need to use an RCA composite to HDMI device to transform output from the AppRadio to HDMI, then connect that into the HDMI feed in the back of the DVD player. You would also be restricted to 480i resolution with this approach.


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Did you consider rca to hdmi to run hdmi to the TV?
I did for a moment, but because of the 480i resolution restriction when you convert from composite video opted for an Apple TV approach instead. My Apple TV device sits on top of my DVD player and I have a 4-port HDMI switch to select between Apple TV, DVD and other 1080i / 4k video output devices. Also supports wireless mirroring which is more convenient than a physical lightning connector.

That trick is really for people who want to watch video in their car......
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Cool. I have Apple TV. Do you feed the audio from the back of the TV to the radio in order to use your AppRadio connected speakers?
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Cool. I have Apple TV. Do you feed the audio from the back of the TV to the radio in order to use your AppRadio connected speakers?


Yes, exactly. Via the RCA stereo wires that are already in place.
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WR, first off, great write up and detail, thanks. Didn't come to this thread looking to upgrade my receiver (since the last thing I need is another upgrade ) but now you have me thinking.
Actually was looking for detail on the existing tuner and if anyone knew of how the black stick FM antenna on the roof was connected (or not). I have horrible FM reception and upon pulling the panel and looking at the tuner (without wiring diagram), cant really tell where the antenna input is, expect there is a thin/short light blue wire that goes from the tuner/receiver that is 10 inches long that goes to nothing, that says (ANT) on it.
Am thinking of putting in that King Jack antenna and according to the manufacturer, if you put a coax splitter inline and tap into it and connect it to your FM tuner, you have a new antenna. Aside from the new KJ TV antenna, my old black fm stick antenna is looking right shabby and thinking of either replacing or removing it. Just a side thought, does your new Pioneer have a coax antenna input?
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The radio antenna is different from the tv antenna. Separate units.

The radio antenna that is mounted on the roof of your airstream is terminated with a standard car stereo plug like this one.... it plugs directly into the head unit.
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Thanks WR. Do you know if the cable used in that connection is coax, albeit with a different connector/plug?
Will call King to ask them to better explain the comment they made about splitting their tv antenna coax to feed the fm signal to the radio.
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Thanks WR. Do you know if the cable used in that connection is coax, albeit with a different connector/plug?
Will call King to ask them to better explain the comment they made about splitting their tv antenna coax to feed the fm signal to the radio.
That is a coax cable, with a standard car radio antenna plug...usually it's really cheap coax and good for FM band at best...
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Mine did a good job with FM and HD digital radio reception.

These units support sat radio as well (XM) with subscription.

95% of the time I Bluetooth to it though and stream from my phone using LTE
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Hdmi!

Finally, the search term "HDMI" appears in the 4th page of this thread. We are buying a trailer that apparently has an HDMI cord plugged into the back of the LG 22" TV and the other end of it is a RCA composite video cable plugged into the JVC unit that is included.

I have asked this question on my trailer specific forum area (sport 22fb) and I have gotten "crickets" for days.

What is Airstream doing here, hiding the HDMI-to-composite cable in the walls or does the HDMI cable run all the way to the mobile DVD receiver? (Last possibility is that adapter is right there behind the TV with the right angle adapter!) There are code rated CL2 HDMI cables designed to be wired in walls of almost unlimited lengths.

I have to admit that I am asking this having never laid eyes on our trailer yet, only going by the downloaded manuals for the electronics and the closely observed video tours of the trailer.
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Airstream would not have rolled one off the floor with an hdmi - component or composite cable. And I donít believe they have ever supplied LG TVs.


Sounds like the previous owner changed the TV to an LG and used an adapter. The adapter wonít be in the wall.... itís got to be floating around the TV or DVD player somewhere....
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