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Old 07-26-2006, 10:25 PM   #1
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Grey water tank question?

I read an article in the Blue Berret that got me thinking. The authur said to take navy showers when you are boondocking or when you don't have sewer hook ups to save on gray tank capacity. Well we do this always. I mean it didn't occur to me to take a "regular" shower when we had sewer hook up and leave the gray tank valve open.

When our dealer was demonstrating all of the systems, he said that you hold the tanks and dump them once each day, dumping the black tank first and use the gray tank to flush the hose. This is what we have been doing but on two occasions we have filled our gray tank and had it back up into the shower and I was wondering, if you have a sewer hook up how many people leave the gray tank valve open all the time and hold the black tank only. I can see doing this up to the last night and holding the gray tank then to flush the sewer hose then. But, on the other hand, our '06 LS package included a flush system for rinsing the black tank and I do that for 5-10 minutes while I take everything else down to leave anyway.

I guess my question is am I holding the gray tank needlessly when we have full hookups? Are we taking navy showers when we don't have to? Hot water capacity not withstanding.
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:32 PM   #2
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... and I was wondering, if you have a sewer hook up how many people leave the gray tank valve open all the time and hold the black tank only. I can see doing this up to the last night and holding the gray tank then to flush the sewer hose then.
That's what we do.

We (actually, me ... Petunia won't get near a sewer hose ) also use a Flush King once in a while ... much better than the stock rinse system ... which I use every time I dump the black tank.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:06 AM   #3
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It would be nice if more dealers or particularly their salespeople would actually go camping in the trailers they sell. I asked this question at an RV show to several salespeople and got the common answer- No I am too busy here. Some would say my parents used to camp when I was younger.
By all means open your grey water tank valve and let her run that is how it is designed to work. Hold on the the black stuff and use the flush feature and be glad you have one. We Classic owners have to drag hoses and use after market devices.
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When the ship is in port and hooked up to shore water the shower will change from a Navy shower to a Hotel Shower ues all the water you want. I myself use the open gray water tank valve and close the last day method.

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Gray Water Procedure

We also use the "gray water open until the last morning routine". We then also do a complete flush of the black tank.

On the shower issue, when we're hooked up, we shower just like home. We have also found that the water heater recycles very quickly. We both have showered back to back and have been unable to run the hot water out. We have also found that we only have to turn the water heater on ten minutes before we want to use it. We make it a practice to leave the water heater off until we need it.

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I would/do leave the gray tank closed even if we are at full hook ups. Maybe it's just me, but I like to have the volume of gray water in there just so that the force of the dump may (or maybe not) push out any solid "pieces" from cooking, washing dishes, etc. Before departure, we also pur a bunch of clean water down all drains to clean the traps to prevent them from getting to smelly during storage. We also use drain stoppers to slow the evaporation of those traps as well.

As for the black tank, it has been noted that the closer to maximumn capacity you can get, the better your dump will be be for the same reason as above.

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"Tanks" everyone. This will improve our camping experience when we have full hook-ups. We will be less roughing it to not have to take navy showers. Now to find state parks with full hook-ups and figure out how to get a bigger hot water heater...but that's another thread.
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.... Before departure, we also pur a bunch of clean water down all drains to clean the traps to prevent them from getting to smelly during storage. We also use drain stoppers to slow the evaporation of those traps as well.
Good idea with the drain stoppers!
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...but I like to have the volume of gray water in there just so that the force of the dump may (or maybe not) push out any solid "pieces" from cooking, washing dishes, etc. ...
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I was reading an article on some web sitethe other day...can't remember where or what the circumstances were, but I think it was a tank or rv manufacturers site...they said the same thing: its best to get the big "whoosh" effect, even w/ the grey tanks. that's how they get smelly. little bits of left-over solids do get stuck in there. They also said that 3" dump pipes should be used instead of the common 1 1/2".
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I was reading an article on some web sitethe other day...can't remember where or what the circumstances were, but I think it was a tank or rv manufacturers site...they said the same thing: its best to get the big "whoosh" effect, even w/ the grey tanks. that's how they get smelly. little bits of left-over solids do get stuck in there. They also said that 3" dump pipes should be used instead of the common 1 1/2".
Never seen a 1-1/2" sewer hose?
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Never seen a 1-1/2" sewer hose?
the drain pipes coming out of many (if not most) grey tanks are 1 1/2"...they typically connect to a 3" pipe from the black tank or some joint often referred to as a "collector", to which the standard 3" sewer hose connects.

but now that you mention it...I actually have a 3/4" sewer hose that I'd be happy to show you:


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I have been told that vectors have used an open line to gain access to the tank....Yikes!

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the drain pipes coming out of many (if not most) grey tanks are 1 1/2"...they typically connect to a 3" pipe from the black tank or some joint often referred to as a "collector", to which the standard 3" sewer hose connects.

but now that you mention it...I actually have a 3/4" sewer hose that I'd be happy to show you:


Seems that would be too easy to get confused with the fresh water supply when hooking up in the dark when pulling into a campsite late at night....eueeeew!
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I am glad to hear that some of you folks keep the gray tank valve open all the time while at full hookups. I am very new to RVing and was advised by a veteran RVer to keep it closed until ready to drain as 'sewer gas' (Christmas Vacation?) would backup from the campground sewer system and come in the trailer.

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