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07-02-2009, 08:22 PM
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#42
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Rivet Master
Elkhart
, Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
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Man 14.8 pounds for 40 hours You will have some "big guns" when you are done! Try looking for a "buffer" there they should be lighter and have a variable speed motor. Good price though. Mike
http://search.harborfreight.com/cpis...keyword=buffer
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07-03-2009, 07:35 AM
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#43
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1 Rivet Member
1981 27' International
HYDE PARK
, New York
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5
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Buffer on ebay
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07-03-2009, 12:36 PM
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#44
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4 Rivet Member
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tallahassee
, Florida
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Shouldn't you use a four inch grinder with this kit?
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07-03-2009, 12:43 PM
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#45
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tallytwo1994
Shouldn't you use a four inch grinder with this kit?
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I asked that before, but nobody answered. I used a 7 or 8 inch grinder when I polished the first time using nuvite, not sure what to use for this.
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07-03-2009, 01:44 PM
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#46
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tallahassee
, Florida
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The small buff pads are 4 inches. I don't see how you could use them with a larger grinder. I suppose if the guard were removed (if possible) any size pad could work. We've bought several brands over the years (we use them in our business) and the Milwallkee has held up the best, although I really liked the Makita I used first.
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07-03-2009, 04:52 PM
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#47
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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I'm using the Jestco products to polish right now. I have both the Harbor freight polisher & a 5" variable speed Makita grinder. Truthfully, the Makita is a bit scarry. Today, I got my $100 Bose earbuds caught in the grinder. They were whipping around & got me in the leg pretty good. I just threw the grinder because I couldn't go through the pain of turning it off. Luckily, it came unplugged on the toss. It still works! I found pieces of the earbuds about 20 feet away! I also hit the corner of the vent from above the stove (on the outside). Yep, I bent it. Thankfully, through all of this, I managed to stay on my ladder! The Harbor freight polisher is a little tamer. I hope to make it through this process without any broken bones. Last time I polished my former trailer, I dislocated my shoulder (with the Harbor freight polisher!)
Good luck....be careful (more so than I anyhow!)
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-03-2009, 06:50 PM
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#48
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
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Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tallytwo1994
The small buff pads are 4 inches. I don't see how you could use them with a larger grinder. I suppose if the guard were removed (if possible) any size pad could work. We've bought several brands over the years (we use them in our business) and the Milwallkee has held up the best, although I really liked the Makita I used first.
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Put the 4" in a drill...
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07-04-2009, 07:26 AM
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#49
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Rivet Master
2022 25' International
Savage
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Here I am using a Northern Tool 7" Polisher with an 8" buff. I tried the smaller buffs on a drill, but you do not make the same progress as you do with a 3000-3500 RPM Polisher.
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07-04-2009, 09:55 PM
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#50
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2 Rivet Member
1972 25' Tradewind
Webb Lake
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 46
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I've been using the harbor freight variable speed polisher with a flannel buff pad from Lowes, but they have them at sears also. Sears also has the rouge for buffing. I'm using the red stuff (Tripoli) for the initial cut. and I bought some white rouge for a final buff (with a loose buff pad), but I don't know if I'll go that direction. after experimenting for a wihile with all the different recommendations for polishing, I tried buffing with the tripoli, then following up with a quick hand polish with Mothers, and it works pretty decent. I'm not going for the ultra shine right now. that will be later on.
I've had some experience buffing out aluminum on buffing stands, and I know that it helps to heat the metal before hand, so I've been working on it on the hot days in full sun. I don't think I'm too smart. I did try buffing on the hot side, and the cool side, and didn't notice too big of a difference. I am getting very little distortion on the hot side while I'm buffing though.
the picture of the rear shows the lines left by the buffer, and the spot in the middle is where I did the hand rub with the Mothers.
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12-23-2009, 04:33 PM
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#51
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Jestco rouge bars...
How is the rouge applied to the aluminum? I thought it was supposed to be applied to the buffing wheel but wont that tear up the buffing wheel? I dont get it.
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12-23-2009, 05:29 PM
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#52
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
How is the rouge applied to the aluminum? I thought it was supposed to be applied to the buffing wheel but wont that tear up the buffing wheel? I dont get it.
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Take a look at post #49. He's using a buffing wheel with some sort of bar polish. The rouge also comes in a bar. I clamped mine to the ladder rung & ran the buffing wheel over the bar. The wheels don't tear up at all. You really are just using the wheel to transfer the rouge to the aluminum. Like with any other method of polishing, you have to get used to how much polish you apply to your wheel, along with how often you apply it. It all comes with experimenting.
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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12-23-2009, 05:35 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1981 22' Excella II
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Colbert
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: 1948 22' Liner
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Jestco rouge bars..
Greetings Gen,
The different bars (White, Grey, Rouge-red) are somewhat soft...you hold them in one hand and the grinder in the other....with the cotton buff (wheel) turning...you touch the bar to the buff....it will adhere to the buff...you don't need a lot....then apply to the surface to be polished....about 12"x12" or so...overlapping....then re apply more polish....after awhile the buff becomes clogged and you rake it to loosen the buff and continue...hope this clears it up for you. I have been polishing with this method for about 2 yrs. and have found it to be the best so far for me. I used to polish the Nuvite way and Rolite way and both those methods where twice as long and twice as expensive..but they work also...and after 7 yrs of those methods, changed to the rouge bars....but to each their on.
The attached photo is of a Caravel that I polished in 60 hrs. with the bar method...used to take me appox. 150 hrs the other methods.
Best Regards,
Levon
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12-23-2009, 05:36 PM
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#54
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
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Jesco is a great company to work with - they are a MAJOR sponsor of our Vintage Resotoration rally in Albuquerque each year - there polishes work extremely well and you will be very pleased with the results - - - the only caution is to be very careful working at high speeds - especially arounds lights and things.
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12-23-2009, 05:39 PM
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#55
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beckybillrae
Take a look at post #49. He's using a buffing wheel with some sort of bar polish. The rouge also comes in a bar. I clamped mine to the ladder rung & ran the buffing wheel over the bar. The wheels don't tear up at all. You really are just using the wheel to transfer the rouge to the aluminum. Like with any other method of polishing, you have to get used to how much polish you apply to your wheel, along with how often you apply it. It all comes with experimenting.
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Thanks, I have the bars too. It just looked to me like the bars would eat up the pads so I thought it best to ask first.
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12-23-2009, 05:58 PM
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#56
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Rivet Master
2008 27' Classic FB
1959 22' Flying Cloud
fairview
, New Mexico
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 575
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I've had good luck with the red rouge followed by never dull and the cyclo. Got a very nice shine. not mirror but something that Tamara and I like!!
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01-06-2010, 02:58 AM
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#57
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2 Rivet Member
1969 21' Globetrotter
Cambridge
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 50
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Levon,
What is the size, speed and make of the grinder did you use to get the result shown in the photo you attached to post #53? I have a 4 1/2" grinder that goes 11,000 rpm. Surely that can't be the right thing. Is the set-up something like what I see in the photo in post #49? What about this adapter that is comes as part of the jestco kit? Do I need it? Did you finish with a Cyclo or was it grinder all the way? Any and all help on this will be appreciated.
John
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01-06-2010, 05:19 AM
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#58
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3 Rivet Member
1981 22' Excella II
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Colbert
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: 1948 22' Liner
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Greetings John,
The grinder I use is a Variable Speed...Maktia...max rpm is 4000...I use it around 3500 to 4000 rpm....I finish with a cyclo.....the cyclo removes the vertical lines that the grinder buffing wheel puts in the metal. Yes, you need the extender adapter...it comes with the Airstream Kit....along with a smaller one for a reg. drill to get into small places around windows and such. Feel free to ask other questions if I can be of help.
Best Regards,
Levon
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05-22-2010, 04:41 AM
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#59
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4 Rivet Member
Waters
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2007
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did jestco go out of business ? I went to the website,and it is no longer in use,any ideas?
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05-22-2010, 06:17 AM
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#60
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3 Rivet Member
1981 22' Excella II
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Colbert
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: 1948 22' Liner
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Web site being redone
Greetings,
I ordered a couple of weeks ago off the web site. After reading you post, I went to their site and it says they are rebuilding their site and I think all new and old customers have to register again.
Levon
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