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07-10-2017, 09:47 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2001 25' Excella
Littleton
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 5
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Fresh Water Tank: Metal Drain Valve Replacement
Hello, my drain valve on the bottom my fresh water tank will won't seal so I can not charge my water system. I tried to turn the nut but the entire disc below it turns with it so it is not threading out.
Anyone who has chanced this out have any recommendations? I also need to locate the replacement part as well.
I have attached a photo of it, it's the valve on the right.
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07-10-2017, 10:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
, xxxxxx
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,351
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Are you sure those aren't low point drains for the galley plumbing?
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07-12-2017, 06:35 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2001 25' Excella
Littleton
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 5
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Yes after going through the owner's manual I did determine that they are low point drains. I can't charge my water system since this valve won't close. It appears in order to change out the valve I will have to drop the metal tub from the bottom which I nervous to start since my planned road trip is next week.
I thought about trying to find the line to this low point drain, cutting it and then putting a cap on it just to get through the end of the season, then properly repair it when I winterize it.
Any thoughts?
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07-12-2017, 07:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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Fresh Water Tank: Metal Drain Valve Replacement
Could you not just clean up the area around the disc and lightly sand to rough up the surface then mix up some J.B Weld Epoxy to apply around the disc and let set 24 hours?
That should hold the base in place and allow you to open and close the valve.I just finger tighten and loosen mine as they are kind of delicate.
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07-12-2017, 08:03 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2001 25' Excella
Littleton
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 5
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The valve spins open/close no problem. It no longer functions properly so even when it's closed the water just pours out when I turn on the water pump.
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07-12-2017, 09:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,673
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brfrgu
Hello, my drain valve on the bottom my fresh water tank will won't seal so I can not charge my water system. I tried to turn the nut but the entire disc below it turns with it so it is not threading out.
Anyone who has chanced this out have any recommendations? I also need to locate the replacement part as well.
I have attached a photo of it, it's the valve on the right.
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Check auto parts place for radiator petcock
https://www.google.com/search?q=petc...Z0EY741X_ihMM:
You may be able to just swap out the internals.
Al
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07-12-2017, 11:48 AM
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BradT
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Milton
, Georgia
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 71
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You can cut a hole in the metal tub to get access to the back of the drain valve. Then remove and replace the valve or cut the line and plug it. You can cover the hole in the metal tub with a small patch of sheet metal and pop rivets. I think that is galvanized steel rather than aluminum so use same materials.
On my trailer I can get to the lines from above in the floor inside my closet.
And i think the jbweld idea could be good, but go further and plug up the drain opening with jbweld. And replace the drain valve later.
You can pull your trailer up on leveling blocks to get more space to work. Good luck with it.
Brad
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07-12-2017, 11:58 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2001 25' Excella
Littleton
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 5
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Thank you! Great advice and I'm a bit embarrassed I didn't think of some of this. Thank you all for your help.
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07-12-2017, 12:38 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
Toledo
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 493
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That metal pan supports the tank . So you don't want to drop that pan unless you want to do a bunch of plumbing work , just cut a access hole and and fix the problem and put a patch over it .
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07-12-2017, 08:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,632
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Be careful cutting a hole, you don't want to go to far and drill into the tank.
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07-12-2017, 09:07 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1986 25' Sovereign
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 283
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Might double check which way you are turning the valve to shut it off. Most are backwards from what is normal.
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07-13-2017, 04:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Those cheap plain steel petcocks always fail -- in time. Sorry you have to do major surgery to replace. Hopefully this potential can of worms will not get out of hand!
PS -- Welcome to the forum, brfrgu, although this baptism by fire may not be the best introduction to Airstream life. It gets better!
Peter
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07-13-2017, 05:32 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2001 25' Excella
Littleton
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Those cheap plain steel petcocks always fail -- in time. Sorry you have to do major surgery to replace. Hopefully this potential can of worms will not get out of hand!
PS -- Welcome to the forum, brfrgu, although this baptism by fire may not be the best introduction to Airstream life. It gets better!
Peter
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Hi Peter, do you recommend I replace this petcock valve with a different type of valve?
Thanks.
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07-13-2017, 07:14 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1986 25' Sovereign
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 283
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After reading again you said water pours when the pump is on. Does it drain when the pump is off? You might look in all access areas above to see if you can determine where the line attaches and make repairs there, at least for now.
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07-13-2017, 08:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,351
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Streamracer
After reading again you said water pours when the pump is on. Does it drain when the pump is off? You might look in all access areas above to see if you can determine where the line attaches and make repairs there, at least for now.
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Exactly.... Put a valve in the middle of the line above the floor.
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07-13-2017, 01:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brfrgu
Hi Peter, do you recommend I replace this petcock valve with a different type of valve?
Thanks.
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Yes, anything but another steel cheap valve. Not sure what you are going to find above the belly pan, but if there is room to get a real brass ball valve into the lines (might as well do both hot and cold if possible), that would be best IMO. But you have to take the discharge from a ball valve and dump it below. You also need access to operate the valves from above if possible.
Too many variables to guess on the best solution. If you can post some photos after you gain access (either from inside, or from below) that would ensure better feedback here.
Possible ball valve:
https://www.amazon.com/Smith-Cooper-...lve+brass+ball
They come in all shapes and sizes. If possible I would avoid the plastic valves which AS supplies as OEM low-point drains.
Good luck!
Peter
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