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06-26-2017, 04:39 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2005 34' Classic
tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 161
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Fix it...? Replace?
I am BEYOND annoyed about this...regardless it can't stay this way.
Replace the metal? Bump it out from the inside...what would you do?
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06-26-2017, 05:41 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,744
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Hi
What can you *afford* to do. Fixing it is *expensive* !!!!
I doubt you will be happy with the cost / benefit ratio of bashing it back into place. It's a two layer skin so even getting to the "bash" stage is not at all simple.
Bob
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06-26-2017, 06:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,673
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Based on my experience that is a $1500-$2000 repair to pull the skin, straighten the slightly bent rib, and rivet a new curved segment in place with Olympic rivets. At least that was the price range at JC or Out of Doors Mart for my lower curved segment repair.
That said, I'd probably fix it. I did on my 2001 Safari.
Al
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06-26-2017, 08:19 PM
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#4
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al and Missy
Based on my experience that is a $1500-$2000 repair to pull the skin, straighten the slightly bent rib, and rivet a new curved segment in place with Olympic rivets. At least that was the price range at JC or Out of Doors Mart for my lower curved segment repair.
That said, I'd probably fix it. I did on my 2001 Safari.
Al
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Not sure if there are any ribs in the end cap. If you bump it out you can significantly reduce it, but you are still going to have a couple of dings at the creases. It can also be pulled out from the outside with suction or a Ding King type device. Take it to Oasis RV and see what they say.
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06-26-2017, 08:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
, xxxxxx
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,351
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If it was under $2k, I would fix it.
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06-26-2017, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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For $0 - Is leaving it as a "battle scar" not an option? If so - go camping and enjoy it.
If not, I think there's a thread in here somewhere where someone unbuckled a creased end cap with an inner tube and a board with an air compressor or something like that (I didn't understand it so I can't remember what to search for ... sorry). And if that does most of the job but still leaves minor creases, you can patch over it. There are a few threads with creative aluminum patches that can inspire you.
Or - take it to the Mothership and they'll do a great job with the repair correctly.
I'd be bummed about it too and would look towards option 2....good luck!
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06-26-2017, 09:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Run home to Mommy! Fix it and truck in!
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06-26-2017, 09:06 PM
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#8
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3 Rivet Member
2005 34' Classic
tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 161
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Ouch! That's a long way from az.
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06-26-2017, 09:17 PM
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#9
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4 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Des Peres
, Missouri
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 266
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Try taking this picture to an auto dent wizard and see what they think
They have many tools they can use to work most of this out from the outside for much lower cost
It's worth a try....
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06-26-2017, 10:47 PM
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#10
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4 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB Flying Cloud
1973 31' Sovereign
Mount Angel
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 259
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Smack on the forehead
All you have to do is look at our Phoenix and then you will feel so much better.
(Phoenix went through a storage facility fire. Mental image: think of a cold hot dog that was previously heated in a microwave. )
Not to make light of your situation, it really is awful when that happens, especially to see the repair estimate and not be certain that it will look like new. Best of luck.
Susan
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06-27-2017, 06:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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Look for a thread by Jerry McMunn. I came up with a method which he used to remove a dent. You can also look for my thread. Good Luck.
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06-27-2017, 07:14 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,322
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Do you have insurance? If so, even a $500 deductible would be worth having your trailer pristine again. If not, then the $1500-2000 quoted above may be in your future if you want it to look perfect again.
There is also the cheap and idirty option: Use the various paintless dent removal techniques to try and pull the dent out from the outside. It is never going to "pop" back into perfection, with that dramatic crease you have, but you can certainly make it into a "scar" and less of a gaping wound. Do a google search from outside the forums for "airforums paintless dent removal" and you should get some hits. One of our members did a hell of a job using a large headed nail, some hot glue, and a pair of vise-grips.
There is also potentailly a labor intensive, but reasonably cheap option: You could remove the interior components, then remove the dented segment. Take it to a body shop with an English Wheel and have them work it back into shape. Reinstall. If you had to pay someone for all the labor, this job will run you into the $2k range as well, but if you do the work yourself, the expense is basically in the English wheel work and all the beer you will consume doing the work.
good luck!
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06-27-2017, 07:20 AM
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#13
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3 Rivet Member
2005 34' Classic
tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 161
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What about this? Take a new piece of metal and just cover it, trying to keep the shape and rivet lines as close to existing seams as possible?
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06-27-2017, 07:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TG Twinkie
Look for a thread by Jerry McMunn. I came up with a method which he used to remove a dent. You can also look for my thread. Good Luck.
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Pretty ingenious, TG Twinkie, I must say!
[click on arrow in quote to go to that thread]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TG Twinkie
My Argosy 26 has had a beach ball size dent in the front end cap ever since I bought it.
I was successful in removing the dent using an inner tube, a piece of plywood and a home made fitting for the shop vac hose.
I placed the inner tube centered over the dent, then placed the plywood on the inner tube. Connected the shop vac hose to the fitting and turned on the vac.
The inner tube had about 5 pound of air, making it flexible and able to make a good seal with the plywood and coach skin.
NOTE: There were no creases in the dent.
I am not sure what the atmospheric pressure is at 4,200ft elevation. I know it is less than at sea level. I am guessing it is about 12.5 pounds per square inch. It's not the vacuum that restores the metal to it's original shape, it is the pressure from behind.
Isn't physics GREAT!
Sorry! the pics are not in order. Look at the last 2 first. Those are the before.
http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/do...Dent%20Removal
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06-27-2017, 09:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Pretty ingenious, TG Twinkie, I must say!
[click on arrow in quote to go to that thread]
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Yes - THAT's the thread I was thinking about but couldn't remember....
Try that first! [emoji3]
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06-27-2017, 03:49 PM
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#16
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dvgofaz
What about this? Take a new piece of metal and just cover it, trying to keep the shape and rivet lines as close to existing seams as possible?
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That's a compound curve. You would need an english wheel.
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06-27-2017, 06:41 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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With a crease like that it will need replacement .
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07-01-2017, 10:51 AM
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#18
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1 Rivet Member
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Covington
, Washington
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 18
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How did that happen, if I may ask?
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