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03-07-2007, 07:33 AM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Action
And yes your system is quite rare. It did not work well so many units have been converted to electric.
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I amend my statement to be:
It was not a well understood system by owners so many units were converted to electric operation.
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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03-07-2007, 08:32 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
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E over H
Why not pitch the vacuum unit into the weeds and get a good electric over hydraulic unit to power the system? The Towbrake unit is excellent.
Since you've got the old system working, I guess it makes no sense to get an E over H unit now. I have the same system in my trailer, but I'm going to dispense with the hydravac altogether and get the Towbrake unit to power the system.
I have a diesel and have no easy source of vacuum either. It just seems to me that we get a battery to power a vacuum pump to create force to move a piston. The Towbrake unit uses battery power to move a piston. It simplifies things.
But what the hay, there's many ways to skin a cat
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03-07-2007, 09:21 AM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Jim,
Slightly off topic.
Your diesel most likely has a vacuum pump too. To power vacuum driven accessories if not the brake booster in your vehicle.
If you are going to remove a working hydravac system or any parts from your A/S, I bet there would be others that would want any thing that your remove. So I would suggest not pitching any of those pieces. If not for you at least for others that could use those parts.
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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03-07-2007, 10:24 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Action,
Rest assured, anything that I remove from this coach will go on here for cheap or for free.
Being a frugal buzzard, I'm going to try to reuse as much as I can when I do my rebuild, but what I don't I will certainly try to see that it goes to a good home!
Actually, I should have realized that my truck has a vacuum pump. Doh! Maybe I can use the old Ausco's then.
I was planning to switch out everything to either Dexter or Kodiak and use the towbrake E over H. I'm not quite there yet
This summer though
Take care,
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03-07-2007, 02:33 PM
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Moderator dude
1966 26' Overlander
Phoenix
, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimGolden
Action,
Rest assured, anything that I remove from this coach will go on here
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Kool!
>>Action
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1966 Mercury Park Lane 4 DR Breezeway 410 4V, C-6, 2.80 - Streamless.
1966 Lincoln 4 door Convertible 462 4V 1971 Ford LTD Convertible 429 4V Phoenix ~ Yeah it's hot however it's a dry heat!
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03-07-2007, 09:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Tweeking the system
Quote:
Originally Posted by Excella CM
One thing you might consider, even if you mount your vacuum supply on the trailer, is a "T" in the vacuum line with a ball valve to atmosphere. This allows you to set the trailer brake by hand when you are at the hitch. I find it very conveient to "blow down" the system when I stop to adjust or inspect or park for a short period. Having the 4 wheels locked tight is added safety. I would fabricate a pump electrical over-ride to shut the vacuum pump off when the ball valve was open using a micro-switch or momentary off spring loaded button switch (you want this so you wont forget to turn it back on). This would also give you a way to shut down the vacuum pump easily. Lastly, a nice, bright L.E.D. (s) to indicate power to the vacuum pump might be good to have. I sure others can think of ways to add work for you to do, too.
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Before I finish this project with the ball valve and switch, I have two more questions. I have wired the pump to a fused line to the battery but the vacuum switch needs a 12volt line also and I am wondering if I can tie into the electric jack circuit. Is it reasonable to assume I can add a switch to this circuit that would alternate power to either the vacuum switch or the jack? Is there ever a time when I would need power to both simultaneouslly?
Thanks,
Wayne
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03-08-2007, 08:25 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Wayne,
I think you'd be fine like that. Just remember to chock the wheels before you raise the trailer off the ball. I can't see why you'd need the brakes when you're stopped and chocked.
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