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Old 04-15-2011, 10:19 AM   #15
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I run my fridge while on in both the motor home and the trailer. In Cosmo, (our 27FB) I had some issues with wind blowing out the burner, so I installed a small fiberglass furnace filter (the cheap spun fiberglass filters with paper frames) right behind the access door of the fridge.

No fridge blow out since (~50K miles - thru windstorms too)

I'd equate the risk of any gas station accidents to the RF energy put out by cell phones and 2 way radios. Gas stations still have signs stating not to use 2 way radio communication devices and cell phones...

FWIW, I have a diesel TV, so most the time I'm filling up at the diesel only pump anyways, where gas pumps are not directly near me or on the same island that I am at. Not saying that diesel isn't dangerous or flammable, but the flash point between diesel and gas is pretty great.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:24 AM   #16
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while fumes are always mentioned i'm more concerned about the odd things that can happen. i've been doused by quite a stream of gas from slow auto-shutoffs and i've seen a hose burst while in use.

on the pumps where putting the nozzle into the pump ends the transaction, what happens when the driver drives off while connected? how is the pump shut down?
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:27 AM   #17
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while fumes are always mentioned i'm more concerned about the odd things that can happen. i've been doused by quite a stream of gas for slow auto-shutoffs and i've seen a hose burst while in use.

on the pumps where putting the nozzle into the pump ends the transaction, what happens when the driver drives off while connected? how is the pump shut down?
Most, if not all, hoses have a quick disconnect valve in the hose. Look for it. It is silver and is usually a short distance from where the hose fits into the pump. May be a law now, I don't know.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:27 AM   #18
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I tow with fridge on. I've done this with 4 RV's over the past 25 years. The only problems I've encountered is on two units the flame would blow out if a truck passed. On one it was in a popup and the regrig did not have automatic ignition. The other was on my previous fiver. I discovered that the electronics on the dometic regrig. had a recall. It was not relighting the flame if blown out. Once the board was replaced, it never had any more problems.

The only time I've noticed the contents getting heated up is during the instances when the flame got blown out and didn't relight. Rest of the time, the refrig has maintained the proper temp.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:43 AM   #19
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Our new Dometic fridge shuts off for 15 minutes when the TV engine is shut off. This is "to allow for refueling". Which would imply that Dometic expects the fridge to be on while traveling.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:57 AM   #20
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Have folks seen the videos of the mother who refuels her car?--
Haven't seen it but I'd like to. Where did you find it it?
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:29 AM   #21
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Our new Dometic fridge shuts off for 15 minutes when the TV engine is shut off. This is "to allow for refueling". Which would imply that Dometic expects the fridge to be on while traveling.
That sounds like a nice attempt at an automatic safety feature - and, no doubt, it would probably work about 99% of the time. There's just that one time when you have to pre-pay because the pump credit card function isn't working, you make a potty stop before returning to the vehicle, etc. and the 15-minute time-out expires! An unlikely scenario but I hate relying on mechanical/electronic safety devices to take over functions that I think I should perform myself. On the other hand, it's a great "back-up" feature for those times when we forget. I always travel with the frig on and, even though I run diesel, if I stop to refuel while towing I turn it off. My best day is one where I can find a diesel pump to fill up at after dropping the Airstream off at the campground! We often run less that 300 miles/day - which is an easy reach on a 34 gallon tank.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:46 PM   #22
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For the request of the pump fire video, I don't know how to post a link. If you go to Youtube & seach gas pump static fire, it will come up first. There is more than 1 video listed there. The first video is not graphic, but it gets the point across. I haven't watched any of the other videos.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:10 PM   #23
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We have always run with the propane on in our 40 years with RV's.. Since we are also boondockers we operate the fridge on propane almost all the time.. We never have had problems with the fridge and the one in this trailer is probably at least 30 years old.
Certainly it is a good idea to shut it off when fueling near a gas pump on a windless day. I usually fuel at truck pumps that are diesel only
Most of these refrigerators are struggling to keep up in 100 degree weather and if driving long days I wouldn't want to depend on mine to preserve my food for 12 or 14 hours of off time.

I have personally only seen one case of a fire at a gas pump (after it happened)and my understanding it was the water heater pilot which was responsible. That was at a flying J in Wytheville, Va quite a few years ago

I am sure it happens from time to time but is probably a lesser risk than many other things we do
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For the request of the pump fire video, I don't know how to post a link. If you go to Youtube & seach gas pump static fire, it will come up first. There is more than 1 video listed there. The first video is not graphic, but it gets the point across. I haven't watched any of the other videos.
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I saw the video but missed "the point." I thought we were talking about fires caused by leaving the refrigerator running. The first woman was lucky but I doubt that even if she had a trailer attached, it would have caught fire in this case.

So, show me one single case where a running refrigerator broke into flame while at a refueling stop. Sure, it "could" happen but so could a meteor strike happen, or a lightning bolt hit. I think this falls in with talking on a cell phone concerns.
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Here are some examples of gas station fires. In one case the guy tried to refuel a aux. gas can in the bed of his truck, but it was a METAL one, not plastic.

The other two involved static electricity and women---usually those who return to their cars to replace their credit cards of check on the kids, etc.

The occurrences are not common. However.....the issue focuses on awareness of the danger and to not take chances......I've seen enough badly burned people in my lifetime, and it is not a pretty situation.....

YouTube - Gas Pump Explosion Caused by Static Electricity

YouTube - Safety At Gas Stations-Static Effect!!Be Aware!

YouTube - Static Discharge


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Thanks for the posts. More to think about.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:24 PM   #27
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Maybe Im cheap but I just freeze several 2 litre bottles and put them in the freezer and refrigerator. Has worked for 12 hour trips in 90 degree weather. Sal.
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My last RV was a "B" motorhome. I always towed with the refrigerator on gas. I'd start it up the day before leaving town and I turned it off when we unpacked when we got back home. That's how I did it with both my motorhomes.
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