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04-03-2016, 11:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Why are they called "ham" radios?
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04-04-2016, 05:01 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
2009 27' FB International
2007 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Greensboro
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Origin of "ham"
I think in the early days of voice transmission, called "phone" vs, Morse code, the telegraph operators used the pejorative term "ham" to describe the phone radio operators suggesting their "ham fisted" techniques were not adequate to perform the task of communications via Morse code.
Thus it eventually became the short hand for amateur radio operators to be called "hams".
Thank you wikipedia.
And, nice to be back on the breakfast club...with a photo from our recent Alumalina 2016.....
Alumalina 2016_III_04.01.16-5 by Tommie Lauer, on Flickr
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Ms Tommie Fantine Lauer, Greensboro, NC
AIR #31871 KQ3H
www.fantinesvoice.com
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04-05-2016, 02:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 30' International
1997 25' Safari
1967 20' Globetrotter
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,499
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I stumbled across this place today. Many vets happily reliving other times In a much safer environment. They all sure looked happy. Jim
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04-05-2016, 04:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 30' International
1997 25' Safari
1967 20' Globetrotter
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,499
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Welcome to the Breakfast Show.......
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly at Night
Jim, how about this for The Breakfast Show?....
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He seems to be perfectly decked out for a March 17 feast at the breakfast table. Jim
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04-05-2016, 08:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,966
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Msmoto
I think in the early days of voice transmission, called "phone" vs, Morse code, the telegraph operators used the pejorative term "ham" to describe the phone radio operators suggesting their "ham fisted" techniques were not adequate to perform the task of communications via Morse code.
Thus it eventually became the short hand for amateur radio operators to be called "hams".
Thank you wikipedia.
And, nice to be back on the breakfast club...with a photo from our recent Alumalina 2016.....
Alumalina 2016_III_04.01.16-5 by Tommie Lauer, on Flickr
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Thanks, MsMo. Was wondering if they liked to sing/perform over the waves, and that's why it's called "ham" radio.
Great to see you at the Breakfast Show table again.
Love your neon flamingoes (and visitor).
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04-05-2016, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Jim, model a/c flying is a huge hobby attracting the young and old. I did not know it attracted so many vets - good to hear. Many former civilian pilots are also involved.
The upswing - these model a/c pilots are responsible. Many recreational drone operators are not. My friend, who flies for an airline, is terrified a drone will come through the windscreen someday.
Unfortunately, many helicopter companies who catered to the film/commercial marketing companies are losing out to drones too.
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04-11-2016, 06:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
2009 27' FB International
2007 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Greensboro
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Drone at Alumalina
Here is a drone operator at Alumalina recently...and he is a pilot. Thus, a very good understanding of what is required to operate an aircraft with safety concerns...
Alumalina 2016_IV_04.01.16-5 by Tommie Lauer, on Flickr
IMO, to fly a drone should require a license of some type as the potential risks to many are very high if not done with an understanding of the activity.
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AIR #31871 KQ3H
www.fantinesvoice.com
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04-12-2016, 09:25 AM
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Refugee from Napa, CA
2015 25' Flying Cloud
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Formerly Napa
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Join Date: Apr 2014
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Registration is more than enough. At some point we have to get Government to stop being our mother.
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04-12-2016, 02:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Welcome to the Breakfast Show.......
If everyone operating drones acted in a responsible manner, I totally agree.
However, there was a recent incident when a Lufthansa aircraft narrowly missed a drone flying too high in the approach to LAX. The Lufthansa heavy had to dodge the drone. They still have not found the drone operator.
Registering drones is probably not the best answer.
I would not have wanted to ride that maneuver as a passenger.
And, in view of the number of fools in the ham radio hobby, I doubt a drone flying license is the answer either. Sometimes fools are too clever for our public good. Regulations probably won't help, but if you can trace the wreckage back to the owner, at least that particular fool can be brought to justice. (Late, but better than never)
And yeah, someone's drone flying in my back yard WILL be the subject of a 'snap landing' if I can arrange it. I love the video of a chimpanzee taking one out with nothing other than a long stick. I have better technology. A bit of Ham radio on the right frequency, and down it goes.....
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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04-12-2016, 04:01 PM
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#1570
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Rivet Master
1973 Argosy 24
Kitchener
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 945
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Ounce and a half of #9s does a good job too.
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04-12-2016, 11:20 PM
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Refugee from Napa, CA
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Formerly Napa
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 614
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I made that comment months ago and took some flak (no pun intended). But there is something to be said for a shotgun, as Mr. Biden so eloquently stated.
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04-12-2016, 11:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Yeah, but the pellet fallout down range is not pleasant. The nice thing about electronic warfare is that it leaves little collateral damage if done right.
Besides, high tech intrusions need a high tech solution....or a long stick.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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04-13-2016, 06:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,966
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A change of pace.
Name the film......
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04-13-2016, 07:59 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1973 31' Sovereign
Ridgecrest
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 8
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Jaws
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04-13-2016, 08:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Weimy, correct. You will not be eaten today.
More to come.....
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04-14-2016, 04:36 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
2009 27' FB International
2007 25' Safari
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Greensboro
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Jaws....about the same effect as a Yagi antenna aimed at a drone, driven by 1500 watts.....
But, doubtful this would be legal...
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AIR #31871 KQ3H
www.fantinesvoice.com
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04-14-2016, 07:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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We were zeroing in the fire control radar on a late WW II destroyer DD 849 (in late 1966) and were aimed at a spar buoy about four miles away. A seagull landed on the buoy just as the radar switched from wide beam to narrow beam. Within a few seconds, the internals of the seagull were microwaved enough that he fell into the water and became fish bait.
I think a similar device would work well on these small drones......
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04-14-2016, 04:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Welcome to the Breakfast Show.......
The ship I was on had a search radar that could easily do that...an output somewhere north of several megawatts in a narrow beam. We used to demonstrate the hazard by taking seagulls out of the air at great distances by pointing at them and going to full power. We were very, very careful working around that radar antenna. The high power tube that generated the pulses produced X-rays at one end and that was surrounded by lead blocks for shielding....nasty.
For a drone, all you have to do is put out enough power to stop it from receiving commands. It goes out of control, and would typically land hard. Good enough. Swatting it with a shovel at that point would be sufficient.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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04-21-2016, 12:35 AM
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#1579
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,966
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The flying friend's fear has been realized. A drone collided with an airliner somewhere in the EU a few days ago. No significant damage, injuries or fatalities (this time).
Have a safe trip, friend.
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04-21-2016, 04:06 AM
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#1580
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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Just wait until one of the military/cia drones now flying all over the US hits an airliner. That will be a much different ending.
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