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04-11-2013, 08:15 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
Osoyoos
, british columbia
Join Date: Feb 2013
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puzzled
My 74 Sovereign has these decals throughout. On the light covers they say to ccw to open, the entire central control is labelled, fridge says 225watts, oven...check latch, vanity lights...A/V out, 12 v in, and caution! Switch gets hit. On counter...breaker box below, and so on. Can anyone tell me anything about that? I realize these are about function and safety, but they are also a step above home label notes.
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04-11-2013, 08:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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sounds like some PO's notes to self?????
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04-11-2013, 08:24 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
Osoyoos
, british columbia
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 40
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Someone mentioned the possibility of being used as a safety trailer at one time. No, they are more formal than notes to self, what is a safety trailer?
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04-11-2013, 08:26 AM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I'm with dznf0g in guessing that these labels are aftermarket. In most '70s Airstreams they don't even label the water pump switch, it's just a switch on the wall near the sink.
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04-11-2013, 08:31 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
Osoyoos
, british columbia
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 40
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Ok, thanks all!
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04-11-2013, 11:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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Yes, an OCD previous owner. Type A personality who loves numbers. I say that being one of them myself, but I try to hide it most of the time. I put my numbers on yellow pads and then lose them or look at them later and say "now, what were those numbers for"
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04-11-2013, 11:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,089
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Might have been notes from one owner to the next owner, to help them acclimate to and function within their new unit.
I can think of two occasions where we would have asked for these, if we had it to do over.
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04-11-2013, 12:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
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Notes from the wife to the absent minded husband.
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04-11-2013, 12:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba
Yes, an OCD previous owner. Type A personality who loves numbers. I say that being one of them myself, but I try to hide it most of the time. I put my numbers on yellow pads and then lose them or look at them later and say "now, what were those numbers for"
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Hey, fall I used a label maker and labeled every circuit in the power center......then made similar notes like OP has but I hid them under the propane cover lid.
Getting more and more forgetful all the time.
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04-11-2013, 08:02 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Labels in a TT (any RV type) really are a good idea. The quality of them is what is at issue, not the need (over desire). Plenty of folks are unacquainted with RV's in general . . these are not houses.
There was a recent fire at the storage facility where I keep the '76 as I prep it for sale. Three motorhomes ablaze when the fire department arrived. And twelve moho's and 5'ers consumed before they got it out (typically high-wind spring day down here).
I have to wonder, first, whether it was an electrical failure (it was my first thought) and, second, if labels would have helped.
Labels that do more than just ID "water pump" or "reading light", but also indicate the electrical circuit and whether 12V or 120V. Etc.
RV's do bounce around. Get older. Are subjected to high heat & humidity, or below freezing temps . . and they just don't have the thermal mass of a house to slow down the effects. (We'll not get into construction quality/QC problems). Things loosen up over time.
Could be that just one electrical circuit was overloaded (these spaces feature cover and electrical service. Most of us run at least a de-humidifier when in long-term storage), when the "load" might have been divided between several circuits. Alarms of all sorts, video security cameras, etc. Big moho's seem to be highly electrical dependent and hungry.
Very nice labels that actually last for a decade or more would be great. And tell more than a partial story.
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04-14-2013, 10:08 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 223
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Do you have to pay extra to have electrical service at hour storage facility? I would love to have a dehimidifier running in our Streamline while in storage.
Also, labels are a great idea. Will have to get our labelmaker out.
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Originally Posted by slowmover
Labels in a TT (any RV type) really are a good idea. The quality of them is what is at issue, not the need (over desire). Plenty of folks are unacquainted with RV's in general . . these are not houses.
There was a recent fire at the storage facility where I keep the '76 as I prep it for sale. Three motorhomes ablaze when the fire department arrived. And twelve moho's and 5'ers consumed before they got it out (typically high-wind spring day down here).
I have to wonder, first, whether it was an electrical failure (it was my first thought) and, second, if labels would have helped.
Labels that do more than just ID "water pump" or "reading light", but also indicate the electrical circuit and whether 12V or 120V. Etc.
RV's do bounce around. Get older. Are subjected to high heat & humidity, or below freezing temps . . and they just don't have the thermal mass of a house to slow down the effects. (We'll not get into construction quality/QC problems). Things loosen up over time.
Could be that just one electrical circuit was overloaded (these spaces feature cover and electrical service. Most of us run at least a de-humidifier when in long-term storage), when the "load" might have been divided between several circuits. Alarms of all sorts, video security cameras, etc. Big moho's seem to be highly electrical dependent and hungry.
Very nice labels that actually last for a decade or more would be great. And tell more than a partial story.
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1966 Streamline Countess 26'
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04-14-2013, 11:08 AM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
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At my storage facility, the spaces with electrical power cost more than the ones without. Now I'm nervous, the trailer behind my Argosy has been plugged in since I started using the space in 2011, and I think its registration expired in '09. It hasn't moved in the entire time I've been parking there, no even enough to dislodge any of the thick layer of dust. It's not ancient, either, it's a Jayflight, I think an '07 model. Hopefully the fuses and breakers will keep it from bursting into flame... for all I know the fuses blew when it boiled all the water out of the battery before I ever parked there.
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04-14-2013, 01:30 PM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
At my storage facility, the spaces with electrical power cost more than the ones without. Now I'm nervous, the trailer behind my Argosy has been plugged in since I started using the space in 2011, and I think its registration expired in '09. It hasn't moved in the entire time I've been parking there, no even enough to dislodge any of the thick layer of dust. It's not ancient, either, it's a Jayflight, I think an '07 model. Hopefully the fuses and breakers will keep it from bursting into flame... for all I know the fuses blew when it boiled all the water out of the battery before I ever parked there.
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So I'm at the storage facility to do some projects and I looked at the trailer behind mine again. Its tags expired in 2006. It's a 2004 trailer. I wonder if its used value is as much as they've spent storing it for 6.5 years.
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04-14-2013, 07:39 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
So I'm at the storage facility to do some projects and I looked at the trailer behind mine again. Its tags expired in 2006. It's a 2004 trailer. I wonder if its used value is as much as they've spent storing it for 6.5 years.
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I'm sure that happens a lot. There are a number of vehicles at our storage yard that cant be worth more than $500. So why pay to store an old car? I'm talking Pintos, nothing rare or unusual.
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1966 Streamline Countess 26'
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04-15-2013, 10:43 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Uncovered, but within a chain link is worth $40/month to me. Covered, with electric was just over $100/month when last I used it. Depends on TT value.
The OP was asking about labels. I speculated their value was greater than simple convenience . . they are a good reminder when double-checking the TT for a variety of reasons.
The OP now has "permission" to go and improve his labels to hearts content. Any spousal opposition to label-making machinery/software has been overcome per this thread (the real reason we all post these questions). "Gosh, dear, all these other folks say . . . ."
Of course, one must follow up with the threads on fire extinguishers, hard-wired smoke alarms, and HALON refrigerator cabinet systems
We need be as careful of what we include as what we exclude.
OP, how about some pics. Sounds like what you have might be a nice template. The worlds militarys often have great labelling on components and switches (especially navies).
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04-17-2013, 08:57 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
Osoyoos
, british columbia
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 40
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04-17-2013, 10:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 27' International FB
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 706
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Clark
Notes from the wife to the absent minded husband.
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Other way around??
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04-18-2013, 10:10 AM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Thanks, OP. Looks to me like a good way to learn things. And maybe update or condense them as time goes on.
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07-12-2013, 11:31 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
Osoyoos
, british columbia
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 40
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I find this in my closet, can anyone tell me what this is?
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07-12-2013, 11:33 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
Osoyoos
, british columbia
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 40
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Woops, must add pic...can anyone tell me what this is about? It's in my closet.
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