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Old 05-26-2006, 09:05 AM   #127
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New mirrors and now new pergoe floor. I finished new exhaust system yesterday. I am ready for LED lights. Just let me know.
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Old 06-02-2006, 02:01 PM   #128
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LEDs

By no means do I want to subvert your project Glen, but if this is workable, it might be alot easier. I think I'm going to order one to see if it works.

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These look like they'd do the trick:
1157-PCB-R36 Red LED lamp

12VDC 1157 Base (dual intensity) with 1-1/2 square LED cluster
36 Red LED lamp designed for restricted access and right angle applications
Select Narrow 15 degree or Wide 100 degree Beam Pattern
$ 9.95


This unique LED Lamp is offered exclusively by Super Bright LEDs Inc. The two piece design is suited for installation in tight overhead lighting applications where other LED bulbs will not work effectively. After the base is plugged into the socket, the LED board can be affixed with double-sided foam tape or, due to their extremely low heat generation, the LED board can be simply laid on the diffuser lens.

Weather proofing features include epoxy filled base and clear coated circuit board.

PCB measures 1-1/2 x 1-1/2 x 1/2 inch, wires are 2 inches long

Designed for overhead lighting in boats, campers, box trucks, etc.
POLARITY SENSITIVE
if lamp does not light you MUST either swap
power wires on your socket or on the lamp

Available types:
1156 White 1156 Red 1156 Amber 1157 Red 1142 White
194 (mini wedge base) White

Current Draw @ 12VDC:
24 LED - 85ma
36 LED - 123ma
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Old 06-02-2006, 03:27 PM   #129
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Hey! Cool! Hope it works!

OutofC -

That looks like it might work. What type lens are you fitting behind?

Be sure to keep us all posted on your progress.

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Old 06-02-2006, 07:37 PM   #130
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By no means do I want to subvert your project Glen, but if this is workable, it might be alot easier. I think I'm going to order one to see if it works.



I would like to know the results of this test.
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:56 AM   #131
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Hi, thank you. [outofcontrol] This site or supplier has flat square super white LEDs for 1156. I have been looking for something to use in my porch light that i can leave on for long periods of time without running the batteries down and melting the porch light lense.

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Old 06-15-2006, 08:53 AM   #132
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Okay, I went out to the barn with the camera. Here are the pictures. They don't really show the light as they appear. It is dark in the barn and the flash made the led's look yellow in the picture. They are not. In the photos, both tail lights are on. One is the brake and the other without the brake. Also there is a picture of the reflector with the bulb in backwards.
I did not the look of these 90 degree bulbs. They do not light up the whole lens and I decided to wait until something better came along. I think ourofcontrol has the right idea.
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Old 09-03-2006, 04:47 AM   #133
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What happened to this thread?

Did these work?


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By no means do I want to subvert your project Glen, but if this is workable, it might be alot easier. I think I'm going to order one to see if it works.

Website Link

These look like they'd do the trick:
1157-PCB-R36 Red LED lamp

12VDC 1157 Base (dual intensity) with 1-1/2 square LED cluster
36 Red LED lamp designed for restricted access and right angle applications
Select Narrow 15 degree or Wide 100 degree Beam Pattern
$ 9.95


This unique LED Lamp is offered exclusively by Super Bright LEDs Inc. The two piece design is suited for installation in tight overhead lighting applications where other LED bulbs will not work effectively. After the base is plugged into the socket, the LED board can be affixed with double-sided foam tape or, due to their extremely low heat generation, the LED board can be simply laid on the diffuser lens.

Weather proofing features include epoxy filled base and clear coated circuit board.

PCB measures 1-1/2 x 1-1/2 x 1/2 inch, wires are 2 inches long

Designed for overhead lighting in boats, campers, box trucks, etc.
POLARITY SENSITIVE
if lamp does not light you MUST either swap
power wires on your socket or on the lamp

Available types:
1156 White 1156 Red 1156 Amber 1157 Red 1142 White
194 (mini wedge base) White

Current Draw @ 12VDC:
24 LED - 85ma
36 LED - 123ma
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Old 09-03-2006, 07:25 AM   #134
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Well in fact I've had four new prototypes in a box that remains unopened for the past three weeks. I may find some time today to actually look at them and may even hook up one or two.
So far the key to success in my estimation is coverage of the lens. Some of the offerings are populated to close together or are now wide enough all together. This results in a blob of light rather than the cool, full coverage most of us are looking for.
More soon....
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Old 09-03-2006, 09:15 AM   #135
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Check this link for led's. It was a paralel thread.





http://www.airforums.com/forum...hlight=led%27s
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:22 PM   #136
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Use caution

Hi all,

Not to be a stickler, but all should use caution in retrofiting any safety lamp on your AS or TV. Running through this thread I have seen a lot of good info and some neat concepts, quite a few sharp Airstreamers out there. However, having a bit of experience in Vehicle safety lighting ( that includes signal, tail, brake, clearance and head lights ), most conversions do not meet the FMVSS (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards), which is the bible for the DOT ( Department of Transportation). These standards are typically adopted from Standards written by SAE ( formerly known as Society of Automotive Engineers ). Now there is usually no one out there enforcing these strict guidelines, but if you were to be involved in a serious accident, most good personal injury lawyers will have the safety lighting inspected to see if any malfunction or alteration could have been a contributing factor. Example; Your cruising along, come to a red signal, you stop and the guy behind you keeps going right into your rear end. Even if your conversion is 100 times brighter than original, if it is not DOT approved, you are gonna get in the back side one more time.

Here is one of the issues with LED conversions, I think some of you kinda know this already; The FMVSS standard requires very specific angular emmision (viewing) patterns. Single point lamps (most original types are) have a concentric or conical lens configuration designed to emmit the light from the lamp per FMVSS. Since the LED array in the conversion is a multi point lamp, the original lens will not emmit the light to meet the specs. A new optical lens is required to cure this issue. So, if the conversion does not also have a new lens, chances are it is not DOT approved. And dont trust foreign manufacturers who stamp DOT on there products, since there is little or no enforcemnet, they take the risk to make the bucks.

I am 100% in favor of LED lighting, just make sure that you are doing it in a way that keeps you out of trouble. There are many good products out there to satisfy most applications.

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Old 09-03-2006, 01:46 PM   #137
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John (Timemachine),

Good information. You mention:
There are many good products out there to satisfy most applications.
Pointers to products meeting DOT requirements which might fit our application would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 05-08-2007, 02:06 AM   #138
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Thread bump !

Thread bump in progress...!!!

Any 'new' info on this issue?? Any DOT approved lights that anyone has tried, liked, hated, ....other??? Any other 'experiments' that you care to share?

Here's hoping.

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