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Old 03-14-2016, 09:51 AM   #1
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Can anyone tell me the actual curb weight of a Argosy 20 with a 350?

I am getting shipping bids on a 20 Foot Argosy MH with a 350 in it. I looked at an owners manual and it said 11000 lbs which seems very high to me. Has anyone actually put one on a scale?
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I am getting shipping bids on a 20 Foot Argosy MH with a 350 in it. I looked at an owners manual and it said 11000 lbs which seems very high to me. Has anyone actually put one on a scale?
11,000 pounds would be the gross weight, not the curb weight.
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Old 03-14-2016, 12:19 PM   #3
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Curb weight lists as 6790lb



However mine was minus the A/C, all the water tanks and all the cabinetry when shipped so was down nearer 6500lb (this was not an official weight but the hauler had to run a weigh-scale before bringing it back), I suspect if it was complete it would be over 7000lb.

If you are shipping (and I have shipped both a 20ft and a 28ft) the biggest issue is height and width, unless they are using a lowboy you will be very very close to the 14ft maximum height allowed in many states. I shipped my 20ft from Florida to Massachusetts and the majority of shipping companies wouldn't touch it.
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Old 03-14-2016, 01:21 PM   #4
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Thank you very much that seem more like it. I just got a bid for 2000.00 to ship it 750 miles. That is just too much for me to spend. I have a 22 ft deck over trailer rated at 14000 lbs and if the Argosy was 11000 it would be too close for me to be comfortable with. My truck is rated at 12000 for towing. If the Argosy is 7000 and the trailer is 3000-4000 I would be in good shape. It does not have an AC unit on it so I think the height would be alright I think my deck over is about 32" at the top of the deck. I will have to measure it. Do you know the over all height of an Argosy is?
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With the A/C they are around 10ft 10in (but it does dependent on whether the A/C is original. With the A/C removed it comes down to around 9ft 11in. I'm surprised there is no A/C, mine was only missing because it was intentional removed, on rear baths the A/c sits towards the back and it isn't always visible in photos. For example 'Peanut' that is for sale on Ebay has a roof A/C but you can't see it on the listing photos.

Also how wide is your trailer? One of the issues of these smaller MH is the wheels have an outside wheel base of around 7ft but there is a good 6in of (low) body overhang meaning the boxed wheel well of the trailer risk hitting the body.

Recently Danec020 (http://www.airforums.com/forums/memb...020-72924.html) had a lot of issues finding a trailer able to take a 20ft that he was looking to buy in Shelbyville (http://huntsville.craigslist.org/for/5478823356.html) as all the ones he could rent had boxed wheel well that would hit the body.
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Old 03-14-2016, 03:46 PM   #6
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having weighed our coach two separate times on two different CAT scales, and once on a private, commercial truck, scale,

iirc, our 1977 Argosy 20 with a 454 weighs in with two people, fuel, water, some gear, a 3/4 full 45 gallon fuel tank, etc., at about 9,500#,

and stands about 10' 2" to the top of the roof AC.

I was very surprised at the at the first weighing difference from the manual... the next two weighings validated the first numbers.

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Old 03-14-2016, 05:24 PM   #7
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Sprouty, I've hauled my 20' Argosy twice on two different trailers. The first trip was 650 miles using a short 16' trailer with no fender covers and a deck height of about 18". The Argosy barely fit on the trailer. The major issue with loading was the rear dually wheels. If I had removed the outer dually on each side it would have been a better fit on the trailer. From experience I wouldn't recommend a trailer this size to anyone
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The next move of the Argosy was on a gooseneck trailer with a 42" deck height. The total height came in just under 14'. I measured several times to verify that number!
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The only problem with a deck height of 42" is the loading/unloading angle has to be much shallower. The draw bar is stuck in the receiver on my Argosy which made loading and unloading more of a challenge. You can see the angle that a 42" flat deck trailer creates. Definitely not meant for loading vehicles. If the Argosy had a frame that was closer to the ground I wouldn't have been able to load it.
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Bottom line is you can use a variety of different trailers it's that each will present it's own set of obstacles to loading and unloading.


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I don't know what I was thinking it does have an AC unit on top. I will have to check my deck height today. If I can't haul it I can't buy it since shipping is too expensive. I have a 22 foot deck over rated at 14K so I will be alright on everything else. I was wondering if the rear would drag loading it. Mine has a beaver tail so that should help and i have a winch to drag it on with if needed. here is a picture of my rig.
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If your deck height is 32" or thereabouts as you mentioned then your trailer should work just fine. The only real issues I had loading onto my gooseneck trailer was the height of the deck with short ramps. With your beaver tail and ramps it should be an easy load with a winch.

Wish I'd had your trailer when I was hauling mine!

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With the beaver tail I think you will be OK. Bella shipped on a trailer with a similar backend.

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And clearance was no issue. However our parts donor wasn't so lucky; the 28ft have a about an extra 5ft behind the rear wheels and I have to dig out the ground behind the trailer to get it on, and then basically parked the tail of the chassis on the asphalt and dragged the trailer out from under it to get it off.



Fine for something that was being sacrificed but not great if you don't want to damage the frame/rear body work!
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I am looking to purchase a 1977 Argosy 28ft. I was wondering the same thing, would the 12,500 max gross weight apply to this one as well? I am trying to calculate average gas mileage. Any ideas?
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I am looking to purchase a 1977 Argosy 28ft. I was wondering the same thing, would the 12,500 max gross weight apply to this one as well? I am trying to calculate average gas mileage. Any ideas?
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If so, we found the gross weight quoted in the manual was way under actual weight. The manual shows as 9690lb but the hauler claimed it was over 11000lb when he ran the weighbridge. It was also 3in over the 14ft height limit and he was very close to some overhead lines as he negotiated his way to the highway.
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