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Old 11-10-2009, 07:47 AM   #29
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They have infiltrated here as well. I have been censored and I had some very profound things to say. Andy say it is not so!! Did you sell your soul????

Just joking but I was wondering what happen to page 3.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:26 AM   #30
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Is it just me, or did more than a few posts get dropped here?
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They have infiltrated here as well. I have been censored and I had some very profound things to say. Andy say it is not so!! Did you sell your soul????

Just joking but I was wondering what happen to page 3.
There was a service interuption resulting in posts, PM's, etc being lost. Lost 5 or 6 myself. This may be what you encountered.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f318...ion-58334.html

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Old 11-10-2009, 08:37 AM   #31
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A growing Unit!!! Excellent news. This great influx wouldn't have anything to do with two Units disbanding in your region would it?
Nope, not that I know of. All are new in that 23 count. NOW, we would welcome any other member that may have lost their Unit but this growth is not because of that.

As a matter of fact some are from areas outside of Region 7.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:02 AM   #32
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Our experience with the WBCC, (don't think the I had been added yet), was in the early 80's when we found out there was a Rally in the Adirondacks.
We decided to attend, show off our "new" 63 Safari and get an estimate from a factory rep who would be there. Had to park in a non-member area. It was "nice", although it was 3/4mi away, and the Rep needed a golf cart to inspect our trailer. We were interested in joining and were told we needed a sponsor, kind'a thought the "63" would be our entry ticket. Nieve newbie.

First impressions....very structured, everyone preciesly positioned, all activities on a strict timetable and not one AS without the red numbers, ('cept us), looked a lot like the flight line I had left behind in the '60's. Oh, and yes, there may have been family's attending, but most were couples.
We did get to observe one group fuction, it reminded me of a Friday night prayer meeting with Berets. Saw no campfires, no campfire music, nobody just sitting around enjoying each others company with a few AB.
I don't doubt that the members attending were enjoying themselves, but we decided that this was not the reason we got the trailer. I got the impression that not many there had much of an AS life beyond the WBCC.

We have Stream'd happy ever since.

Would we re-consider joining?, they are Streamers after all....

Maybe, when we are a "little" older and more mature we may fit in better...

We still enjoy dock'n in the 'Dacks, after we settle down a little.....?

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Old 11-10-2009, 02:27 PM   #33
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There are many sources of info about the WBCCI:

1. From members who love it.

2. From members who agree the top leaders are out to lunch, but their units are fine.

3. From members who quit, or are about to quit.

4. From people who went to a WBCCI function and decided it wasn't for them.

5. From people who read the many threads and make assessment based on what they read judging what posts make sense and those that don't, i.e., who's an accurate reporter and that judgment is based on the content of the post and the reputation of the reporter.

6. Go to one or more WBCCI rallies, have contact with WBCCI members when trying to join or just having joined.

All of the first 5 are reasonable sources of information and when I was teaching history, we relied on all of them in varying degrees. Not having a time machine I was unable to join the Constitutlonal Convention, but I know a lot about it (since the proceedings were closed, I would have to rely on others to report what happened even if I could go back to 1787).

Those who are interested in joining the WBCCI make judgments based on all or some of these factors just like a historian or other social science researcher makes judgments and with thought, analysis, life experience and a little luck. They can make an accurate judgment as to what's happening with the WBCCI. No doubt there will be conflicting reports and personal experiences.

I in fact went to a small 4CU rally and it was fine. I have never read anything negative about the 4CU or a few other units. When I look at all the information available, that was not enough.

I do not wish the WBCCI a bad future. Given my analysis of all the information and the nature of organizations in contemporary America, I don't think the future is good for the WBCCI, and the recent past has not been good for the organization either. I am a student of community and organizational structures, and being an Airstream owner, and someone interested in history, I find the discussion very interesting. Frank calls it "lurking". I call it "research". In good faith, I make suggestions to improve things well aware that unsolicited advice is rarely listened to. Even solicited advice is often ignored. But, you don't have to be a member to see what's happening just as you don't have to be in Congress to have an opinion about it.

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Old 11-10-2009, 03:33 PM   #34
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My wife and I were members for two years. We started out as MAL's but a nice lady from the South Florida Unit called us and we joined the unit. As we were both still working, we were not active (seems all the rallies/meetings included weekdays) but were planning on going to the next Florida State Rally and then, after retiring we wanted to do a caravan.

Then the whole "lets rename the club" thing started. Then the "lets let anyone with a SOB MoHo in or stay in, and keep any office they hold" thing started. So there was a vote. Both proposals soundly defeated. I was thrilled.

A scant few months later an officer in our unit proposed the resurrection of the MoHo proposal, received majority backing from the unit and merrily went of to Region to start the whole thing over.

I am somewhat ashamed to say that I exploded (very unlike me) and resigned immediately with a letter to HQ. Never received a reply although the same nice lady from the unit called to ask why we had quit. She just sighed when we told her.

My point is that before posting about the WBCCI, you should at least give it a shot, especially if you live near one of the progressive units. If it turns out you don't like it, you've earned the right to vote with your feet. But, with any luck, you may love it and be the one (are you out there Neo?) to fix it...

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