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Old 04-04-2018, 01:32 PM   #15
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I just dropped my Avenue Suite (Chevy chassis) at my local tint shop for 3M Crystalline 90% install on both front cab windows. I didn't want anything dark, just the solar rejection, as my eyes don't need any reduction in light to impede nighttime driving. And I don't have a particular eyesight problem other than what comes with being age 64.

Wachuko mentioned earlier Interblog's Thread "Declaring War on Summer Heat" and my window tint is my finishing touch on my battle. The fiberglass top on the Avenues is extremely well insulated right from the factory. Adding insulation behind cabinets where there was none, adding Reflectix to side windows, a commercial brand windshield shade, and now tint. What a difference it all makes!

I've done things and paid for things in the past that resulted in very little difference after all of it was done. But I'm happy to say my battle to curb heat has not been one of them. The steps I learned in this Forum for battling the harsh Texas sun have been well worth it.

We've already had a few days with highs in the low to mid 80's and full hot Sun all day with the RV closed up tight (no running or even opening the Maxx Fan or a window). The hottest recorded temperature at countertop height has been 96.1 degrees. A/C cools it down quickly and it stays cools for quite a while after the a/c is turned off. Sure beats my car which immediately gets hot once the a/c is off.
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Old 04-06-2018, 08:40 AM   #16
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Do you need to do the large side windows?
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I've been quoted $600 for windshield, passenger and driver windows including triangle windows for 3M 90. Is that about right?
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:06 AM   #18
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I've been quoted $600 for windshield, passenger and driver windows including triangle windows for 3M 90. Is that about right?
This is what I paid:

3M Crystalline - Windscreen Lifetime Warranty70: US$360.00
3M Crystalline - 2 Front Doors Lifetime Warranty40: US$250.00
3M Crystalline - SunstripLifetime Warranty40: US$40.00

Everything installed was US$695.50 with the tax
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:15 AM   #19
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I'm still jonesing for the 3M stuff. My fear is that we'll lose our windshield like so many Sprinter owners eventually do. Then that $360-ish goes right into the crapper.

In other words, it's not the initial $$ outlay that concerns me in the slightest - it's the loss of it.

I wonder can windshields be re-seated successfully after the tint is applied? Because that's the other issue that we face, with an 11-year-old Sprinter. Even if the original windshield continues to survive all road hazards, eventually we are going to have to lift it and re-do the seal. I can tell this from the way it's aging.
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This is what I paid:

3M Crystalline - Windscreen Lifetime Warranty70: US$360.00
3M Crystalline - 2 Front Doors Lifetime Warranty40: US$250.00
3M Crystalline - SunstripLifetime Warranty40: US$40.00

Everything installed was US$695.50 with the tax
I follow Wachuko.

At the 3m installer now...Was planning on 70's for the front as well but on the 90 they had it in 36" so just one piece. Also they did a test with the 70 versus 90 because I was thinking tint strip but it showed the windshield heater elements a little more.

They quoted me $250 for the windshield though... $250 for the front doors.
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Old 04-06-2018, 01:24 PM   #21
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The 3M crystalline film is highly effective--we have it on our cars out in the SoCal desert areas--really cuts down the heat gain.

Yes, its pricey. A Prius windshield is $300, the rest of the car (hatchback) is $700. Can't imagine what a Sprinter would cost around here, but the guy we use is super fussy and very precise, and my DW trusts him to do a great job--so we go to him every time...
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I've been quoted $600 for windshield, passenger and driver windows including triangle windows for 3M 90. Is that about right?
I paid about double that. I can always spot the bargains.
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:55 AM   #23
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Curious about tinting the side & back windows.... Did you find the factory levels inadequate and needed more protection afforded by the 3M tint or was it for aesthetics or combination of those 2 ? ...
Entirely for heat control. I doubt (don't know) that the OEM tinting is tuned for solar control; I'm guessing it is primarily for privacy. The film I'm installing will be 90% clear, but have good heat blocking.

On the front window I went with 70% transmission (3M), which does dim the view a bit at night, but we don't need sunglasses to drive. Cab side windows 40%.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:11 AM   #24
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I paid about double that. I can always spot the bargains.
I was quoted $325 plus tax for the windshield only yesterday, by one of 3M's "listed" installers (a place in Angleton which, as it turns out, uses a subcontracted individual to do the work). I stressed that this was a SPRINTER with a huge windshield. Didn't seem to phase the person on the phone who was answering my questions.

I haven't approached your vendor yet for a quote. It is possible that more installers are doing the job now, and prices are coming down a bit.
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Old 04-07-2018, 04:13 PM   #25
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We were charged $790 by a 3M certified installer to apply 3M crystalline 90 clear to all interior glass in our 27 Eddie Bauer. A team of 3 completed it in an afternoon, at our location. It has helped us manage the heat here in South Florida. Joe
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I had Huper Optik ceramic 70 installed on the front and two sides for about $500 It makes a big difference on heat and sun rejection.
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I REALLY would have wanted to try the 3M Crystalline. However, there is a VERY limited number of dealers listed in the 3M website for Las Vegas (i.e. 2).One that caters to many exotic cars do not have the bays that are high enough for the AI. But I will take my regular cars there, because the place just wreaks of a pro shop. The place looks like a lab clean room. The other, seems tinting & paint protection is just a part of "other" things they do (audio, wheels, etc). And they really do not inspire confidence from the get-go.

So, for my AI, it was a no-brainer to go to my long time pro shop. All they do is tint and paint protection. But they carry Llumar and Xpel, not 3M. Since unbeknownst to me (until my research for the AI) that I have actually been using Llumar all these years, I decided I couldn't go wrong with a product I have been happy with for such a lon time.

So, I had the complete Llumar package done -
- Platinum paint protection package on full front clip (bumper, air dam, chin spoiler, headlights, foglights, full fenders, fender flares, A-pillars)
- CTX 15 ceramic driver/passenger roll down windows
- AIR 80 driver/passenger fixed triangle quarter windows. Opted for this to maximize visibility of my side mirrors at night
- AIR 80 full windshield, full height
- CTX 5 ceramic sun visor on top of AirShield 80 full windshield (20% of windshield height)
- CBond NanoShield on outside windshield

All I can say is WOW, what a huge difference. I don't know about the rest of the country in southern or south western states. But here, we have already seen 88-92 all week. On my drive home from tint shop, facing directly west with full sun in my face at 4,000 ft. above sea level, I could not feel the heat as I did the day before. While I am disappointed that I could not install 3M Crystalline on the AI, soon I will install on my other cars. And I am definitely happy with how the Llumar package looks & feels on my AI. And (out of the mouths of babes) my 3yr. old grandson yells "grandpa, MY rv looks cool". At 3, he already knows the rv is his, not ours
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If you do decide to go with 3M, be sure to have them leave some of the watermarks in place before you pay... just to make sure that they indeed used 3M Crystalline and not something else. ......
Forum prize goes to Wachuko today for this piece of insightfulness. In trying to make final arrangements to get this job done on our rig, a task whose angst factor is proving to be on par with pulling hen's teeth, one of the refrains I heard today was, "Lady, you are about to get shafted." The long and short of it is that almost nobody reputable will do this job around here, and those who won't are warning me about those who will. They are going to rip me off. They are going to tell me that they are installing 3M CR-90 while doing the ol' switcheroo in the automotive bay.

A couple of other learned tidbits:

(1) The reason why few installers will do it is that they see 3M's licensing requirements as being too onerous to deal with.

(2) The other reason why few installers will do it is the reputation of tints generally. There's a stereotype which says that car window tinting is most highly sought by people of lower socioeconomic standing. One installer told me to get lost for thinking that his customers would ever consider forking out that kind of money for either a ceramic or a 3M product. People want cheap and flashy, end of story (he said).

(3) The reason why the few obliging installers are trying to jack the prices so high is that, even at spendy-er socioeconomic levels, very few people will pay big bucks for an essentially clear tint. 3M CR-90 is sold in 100 foot rolls. Therefore they try to make their money back on what few jobs they get, to cover as much cost of the 100 foot roll as possible.

(4) It was re-iterated to me that windshield tints of any kind are illegal in Texas without regard to percent of light transmitted, save for the strip at the top. There have been cases of people having to rip off their tints to pass the annual inspection. If the inspector sees the faint cut marks of the tint around the state inspection sticker, then they can require it removed as a condition of passing. This is a risk.

I'm still looking for a trustworthy installer. But again, kudos on the watermark catch. I was wondering how in the heck I was going to have my job proved up until I re-read this thread.
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