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07-26-2014, 06:17 PM
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Tino
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Trailer toad
Some one have the trailer toad for hitching? I want to buy a 30 foot international and tow it whit a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel. I had a 27 foot international and pull it whit a 2011 V6 Grand Cherokee and it was ok. But the propride was a little bit hard on the hitch. So whit the trailer toad i will have no strenght on the frame. My question is if some one have this product and how do you like it? And please don't tell me i can't tow a 30 foot whit a Jeep GC. I did 24500 km, 2 adult, 1 child, 3 biks, always full water and foot accross USA whit a V6 so i can )). Thanks...
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07-29-2014, 07:04 AM
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Wait, no one has come in here to tell you that you shouldn't be towing with that? Wow. I'm impressed.
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07-29-2014, 07:59 AM
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Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tino643
Some one have the trailer toad for hitching? I want to buy a 30 foot international and tow it whit a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel. I had a 27 foot international and pull it whit a 2011 V6 Grand Cherokee and it was ok. But the propride was a little bit hard on the hitch. So whit the trailer toad i will have no strenght on the frame. My question is if some one have this product and how do you like it? And please don't tell me i can't tow a 30 foot whit a Jeep GC. I did 24500 km, 2 adult, 1 child, 3 biks, always full water and foot accross USA whit a V6 so i can )). Thanks...
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Your absolutely correct, you can tow with that vehicle.
BUT, Safely??????
Absolutely NOT.
Andy
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07-29-2014, 08:05 AM
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Well, he told us not to.
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07-29-2014, 10:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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I don't need another spanking, thank you!
But I am confused on what a "trailer toad" is?
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07-29-2014, 11:17 AM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
But I am confused on what a "trailer toad" is?
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It's a wheeled dolly that you tow behind your tow vehicle, and the trailer ball attaches to the dolly. Kind of like towing a farm wagon.
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07-29-2014, 11:31 AM
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2007 30' Classic
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I've seen those but didn't know they were called toads!
"Do they still make those....?"
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07-29-2014, 12:51 PM
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Yup, they still make them. But from all the promotional material from the few manufacturers I've seen, this looks like it's main target market is Buses/RV's pulling trailers. Not really an undersized vehicle pulling an over sized trailer. I know the new diesel in the Jeep is nice, but seriously, 30 feet behind that thing, plus the 4 feet the toad will add?
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07-29-2014, 01:00 PM
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2007 30' Classic
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Mike, you done broke the rule! Shame be upon you!
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07-29-2014, 01:29 PM
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Whoops. My bad.
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07-30-2014, 05:09 AM
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1995 30' Excella
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I don't understand why you'd need the toad...why couldn't the Jeep just have a hitch on it? (Putting aside concerns about the suitability of the tow vehicle.)
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07-30-2014, 07:07 AM
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I'm In
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Found this on the Interweb. Just Google Trailer Toad.
Looks to me like it would see-saw and lift the tail of the TV. I'm not sure why you'd have it either, unless you needed a lot of space between the TT and the TV. I'll bet it's a lot of fun to backup.
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07-30-2014, 07:11 AM
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Ottawa
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This is a modern version of an old solution to towing a heavy trailer with a vehicle not up to doing it "on the bumper".
You will see that they use it on Lucy and Ricky's rig in "The Long Long Trailer". for example.
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07-30-2014, 08:20 AM
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That trailer toad is an interesting concept. I would also think that a back-in campsite would be out of the question without removing the toad from the mix. I am also wondering how stable a towing situation you would get at highway speeds.
Brian
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07-30-2014, 08:27 AM
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There are not two balls. It appears to be a solid fixed connection to the TV. Also, from another pic online, the toad wheels are spring loaded on-center, like a dolly. Shouldn't be a backing issue at all.
I still think it's a band aide fix item though, for not enough TV. But that's just my opinion.
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07-30-2014, 08:49 AM
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If you noticed my profile picture it is of me hooking up our family's 1950 26' Pan American. This was in 1952. We were traveling (moving) from Michigan to California following ROUTE 66 the entire way. Dad had welded a very sturdy hitch to the 1948 Nash Ambassador but the 5k+ DRY (remember we were moving) trailer was becoming difficult to handle by the time we reached Texas. So expecting some more difficult highway through New Mexico and Arizona the California we then bought what was called a 'dolly' to relive much of the tongue weight. Slimp wheel, which resembled a 'caster' that could swivel was another type of dolly, which would make it possible to back the trailer up. It was too expensive. We did encounter a situation (in LA.) where dad had to rehitch the trailer after the dolly locked up in an intersection....on a hill! I will never forget THAT! I was 14.
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07-30-2014, 04:52 PM
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I can't see how those dolly wheels wouldn't make backing up difficult if not impossible. The reason you can't back up with a tow dolly or four-down towing is because, as someone put it to me, you're backing up a wagon, and the front wheels can go wherever they like. If you lock the wheels into a straight direction, your wheelbase is huge and turning is going to be hard (think about pushing that wagon, trying to change its direction, without turning the front wheels; the only force you can apply would be at the tip of the handle - or think about how much the tires on a 34' twist when it's turning while backing up). If there's something I'm missing, I would like to hear the correction.
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07-30-2014, 05:11 PM
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I understand your request of no one to tell you what you cannot do but you are trying to pull something with a vehicle that both payload and tow rating are being violated. According to the manufacturer the Jeep Diesel is not designed for it. That would include the axles, transmission and cooling system,
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