Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-17-2012, 09:37 AM   #15
Rivet Master
 
vswingfield's Avatar
 
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock , Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,773
Images: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJtoNC View Post
thank goodness for airforums! this is great info. perry, i'm trying to get the tires your recommend. i appreciate the advice.

last question; is it a terrible idea to keep the 225 radial as a spare? it has 200 miles on it. can i use the 225 temporarily with a 235 if one of the 235's blows?
That's what I'd do.

I wouldn't want the mismatched tires on there for a long time, but they would still be a much better match than those compact spares that cars used.

I also agree with Perry, I've had great luck with Michelins on my Trade Wind. I put a set on way before I learned about the forums. (OK, way before the Internet.) I put the same tires on the trailer as I had on my Tow Vehicle. Great results.
__________________

__________________
Vaughan
vswingfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 09:38 AM   #16
Rivet Master
 
1981 31' Excella II
New Market , Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,648
Keep it as a spare. I have a cheap chinese made spare that cost me $100 for the tire and rim. It will be better than nothing if your main tires blow. Always keep an eye on temps. When you stop at least get out and feel the tires. Hot weather and high speed kills tires or at least trailer ST tires.

Perry
__________________

__________________
perryg114 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 09:52 AM   #17
Rivet Master
 
purman's Avatar
 
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge , Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,542
I have Carlisle's on my trailer, They are 8 ply D rated. This year before my 3000 mile trip i checked the date they were made. It was 06'. I bought a tire monitoring system for $260 to keep track of pressure and temp. they have well over 15,000 miles on them. I had no problems on my trip and no temps over 114, I run at around 70 mph. even in 104 degree temps outside.

With this said, and all the blowouts with ST tires I will be putting on truck tires now. I am also probably going to get some 16 inch rims, as mine are the original rims, and I want new ones anyway. There are more options for tires with higher weight ratings with 16 inch rims. This is the only reason to switch to them. If you have new 15 inch rims I would go with the michelins. They also have a $70 rebate right now..

Why would you want to put tires on your trailer that are not built to the same standard as Your TV. They cost any more, and I haven't heard of anyone complaining about blow outs once they switch.
__________________
Jason

May you have at least one sunny day, and a soft chair to sit in..

2008 5.7 L V8 Sequoia
AIR # 31243
WBCCI # 6987
FOUR CORNERS UNIT
purman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 09:55 AM   #18
Site Team
 
azflycaster's Avatar
 
1975 25' Tradewind
Dewey , Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 12,127
Images: 62
Blog Entries: 1
I am a little confused. What size was the bias tire that blew out?
__________________

Richard

Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
azflycaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 11:35 AM   #19
3 Rivet Member
 
10Smiles's Avatar
 
2005 30' Classic
Kingston , Washington
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 238
We had Carlisle tires on our '04 SOB trailer when new. We usually didn't tow it very far from home, but once on a trip to Eastern Washington from the Salem Oregon area we had a blowout in 100 weather. Then the next year, we were going to Yellowstone (I-90) and had a blowout on the way there and another one on the way home. So, that was three of the five Carlisle tires that came with the trailer (all blowouts were in hot weather). Then we replaced the fourth Carlisle tire (kept one as a spare) and had no other problems. Now we have an Airstream and next spring are hoping to switch to 16" wheels and get LT tires.
__________________
10Smiles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 12:03 PM   #20
moderator
Commercial Member
 
Airslide's Avatar

 
2014 23' FB International
Currently Looking...
Wilton , California
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,705
Images: 50
Send a message via Yahoo to Airslide
This was three days ago... outside temps of 90 degrees plus. These are four year old Carlisle's and was to be their last trip before replacement .

I have been all over with these guys and satisfied to this point. They are E rated tires as the slideout units are heavy. It was a very loud explosion that took a small part of my airstream with it.

To be fair to the tires.. I must add that with the high outside temps Im not exactly sure on the tire pressure. These E rated tires were set cold to 65 psi and I know they heated up to 75 psi on the way up.. They are rated at 80 psi. Once I had the blowout I lowered all the tire pressures to 70 psi hot.

Vinnie
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	blowout.jpg
Views:	83
Size:	30.8 KB
ID:	166043   Click image for larger version

Name:	blowout1.jpg
Views:	84
Size:	20.1 KB
ID:	166044  

__________________
"Old fashioned service on your late model Airstream"

https://www.facebook.com/VinniesNort...ir?ref=tn_tnmn
Airslide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 12:12 PM   #21
Moderator
 
DKB_SATX's Avatar

 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
1976 Argosy 28
Alamo Heights , Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,401
Images: 1
Blog Entries: 7
Ugh... this makes me crazy!

My Argosy came with a set of Carlisle Radial Trail 225-75-15s, C load range. They are about 6 years old, and I'm going to replace them before we go to Albuquerque in October. I'd been considering replacing with the same thing OR the LTX Michelins... I think I'm feeling a Michelin purchase coming on.
__________________
David

Zero Gravitas 2017 Flying Cloud 26U | Il Progetto 1976 Argosy 28 Center Bath | WBCCI# 15566

He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire. Sir Winston Churchill
DKB_SATX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 12:42 PM   #22
Rivet Master
 
bwoodtx's Avatar
 
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio , Texas
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,365
Two years ago on my way to a rally in September I had a street side rear tire blow out. It did $7000.00 woth of damage to my trailer. It was a Carlisle tire. Never again!! After repairs were complete, I went down and bought 4 P23575R15 XL Michelinsand put them on. This is on a 97 Excella 1000. Have been happy ever since.

BTW, whatever tire you get, have them filled with Nitrogen-less temperature and pressure fluctuation in hot climates.
__________________
Bruce
WBCCI# 9259 AIR# 38927 TAC-TX 14
Stop Littering-Spay & Neuter-- Adopt From Rescue
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
bwoodtx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 12:44 PM   #23
Rivet Master
 
bwoodtx's Avatar
 
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio , Texas
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,365
PS-all my trailers now get the Michelin XL-especially DW's sisters on the fly trailer!!
__________________
Bruce
WBCCI# 9259 AIR# 38927 TAC-TX 14
Stop Littering-Spay & Neuter-- Adopt From Rescue
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
bwoodtx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 12:53 PM   #24
moderator
Commercial Member
 
Airslide's Avatar

 
2014 23' FB International
Currently Looking...
Wilton , California
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,705
Images: 50
Send a message via Yahoo to Airslide
Quote:
Originally Posted by bwoodtx View Post
Two years ago on my way to a rally in September I had a street side rear tire blow out. It did $7000.00 woth of damage to my trailer. It was a Carlisle tire. Never again!! After repairs were complete, I went down and bought 4 P23575R15 XL Michelinsand put them on. This is on a 97 Excella 1000. Have been happy ever since.

BTW, whatever tire you get, have them filled with Nitrogen-less temperature and pressure fluctuation in hot climates.
Thanks for the feedback Bruce.

The Michelins you purchased have a weight rating of 2183? according to the website? My airstream sits at exactly 4000 lbs per axle at the scales. What does the weight limit show on your tires?

Vinnie
__________________
"Old fashioned service on your late model Airstream"

https://www.facebook.com/VinniesNort...ir?ref=tn_tnmn
Airslide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 01:05 PM   #25
Rivet Master
 
1981 31' Excella II
New Market , Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,648
Fortunately the safety margins on car tires are better than on trailer tires so if you are right at the max load you should be ok. I would keep track of tire temps and if they start running hot slow down. Mine are always cooler than the tow vehicle tires. You can use that as a guide. If they start getting hotter than the tow vehicle tires slow down or pull over till they cool off. If the tow vehicle tires get around 200 F I would let them cool as well.

Perry
__________________
perryg114 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 02:42 PM   #26
Moderator
 
HiHoAgRV's Avatar

 
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central , Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,326
Images: 29
Blog Entries: 49
If you want to run a sanity check...

Take the weight of your trailer, then go find a vehicle that has the same GVWR...(hint, it will probably have dual rear tires).

See if you can talk the owner of the vehicle to install 4 15" trailer tires, load the vehicle to the max and drive through the desert at highway speeds.

A quick look will show, for most of us, it would be like outfitting a fully loaded 4X4 Excursion with Marathons...and we wonder why they fail!

Hummm...a Dually Airstream?
__________________
Hi Ho Silver RV! Vernon, Sarah, Mac the Border Collie -
A honkin' long 34' named AlumaTherapy http://www.airforums.com/forums/f205...num-54749.html
and a 26' '63 Overlander, Dolly http://www.airforums.com/forums/f109...ome-71609.html
HiHoAgRV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2012, 10:18 AM   #27
Birdie Momma
 
NJtoNC's Avatar
 
1957 26' Overlander
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Rutherford Co. , North Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 904
i googled 'carlisle class action' and there appears to have been someone interested in a class-action suit back in 05' but i dont see what came of it.

i did get lots of results on RV blow outs very similar to ours. seems ridiculous that they cam keep making this unsafe tire after so many complaints.
__________________
'57 Overlander | '56 Flying Cloud | '51 Spartanette
NJtoNC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2012, 10:24 AM   #28
Rivet Master
 
purman's Avatar
 
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge , Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,542
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJtoNC View Post
i googled 'carlisle class action' and there appears to have been someone interested in a class-action suit back in 05' but i dont see what came of it.

i did get lots of results on RV blow outs very similar to ours. seems ridiculous that they cam keep making this unsafe tire after so many complaints.
It's because people keep buying trailer tires. If we all start buying LT tires they won't sell them any more. I will never buy another ST tire again even for my utility trailer.
__________________

__________________
Jason

May you have at least one sunny day, and a soft chair to sit in..

2008 5.7 L V8 Sequoia
AIR # 31243
WBCCI # 6987
FOUR CORNERS UNIT
purman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.