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Old 08-08-2013, 02:26 PM   #29
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you hit my button...

How much is your life worth..really..if you can afford an Airstream you should make sure you and your family travel safely.

We had a Reese with anti-sway bars that totally failed when they reached there limited ability. The sway bars were never found after the accident. Both trailer and TV were totaled. Reese did not respond. There is a huge difference between Hensley/PP and the rest of the hitches, no comparison. It only takes once. We have NO sway with the Hensley when the semi-s fly past us. No wave. Life is already too short, be safe!
Sorry to hear about your wreck....listening to your description of events I don't expext a $2,300.00 hitch would've made any real difference.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:44 PM   #30
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Oh yes the Hensley would have kept the trailer from swaying!! If you are pulling at 80 I do not want to be anywhere near you. Oh, Hensley is about $3000K.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:59 PM   #31
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I've pulled two different Airstreams with two different tow vehicles in some severe wind conditions and at speeds approaching 80 mph on the open road (in calm conditions) and never had so much as wiggle out of either one with a $250 Reese hitch....
So have I (except for the 80 mph in extreme wind part...), but that doesn't mean there isn't a better towing experience out there. If you haven't tried one on your particular setup, it's hard to judge.
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Old 08-08-2013, 03:48 PM   #32
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It's hard to describe the value of a 3P hitch; towing just becomes uneventful. That's why it's easily worth he cost.

I've towed with tow prior hitches and they were excellent in excellent conditions. Those who tow with coupler on the ball find Airstream towing excellent as well. But when conditions worsen, so does the tow experience. Not so with Hensley/Propride.

The person who had the broken stinger weld replaced it and continues to use his ProPride. Perhaps that's the most useful testimony here.

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Old 08-08-2013, 04:34 PM   #33
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And there are always going to be people that figure the more money they throw at something the better it is.
I don't need anyone making my decisions for me...I'm happy with my choices, hope you are happy with yours. Swallow a camel and then gag on a gnat.



They are both the same concept...the 3P is what the Arrow would have evolved into under the right conditions. The 3P is a better design (head, yoke system, jacks, WD bar keepers, replaceable ball, adjustable stinger, lower drop hitch bars, etc.) and head & shoulders better in construction techniques (I am in the manufacturing business). And best yet, the superior system is the lowest priced.

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Old 08-08-2013, 06:52 PM   #34
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I ordered a 3P for my new trailer to deliver in october.

You can see my thread on the subject.

I vacillated severely and approached the subject with severe skepticism.

I cannot say I am 100% convinced it is worth 2500 bucks...but...in the end I made my decision because:

The only real information to glean on this subject is anecdotal reporting regarding hitches and personal experience across different users.

In the case of the hitch you mentioned and many other commonly used hitches, reported experienced varied to some degree...my approach was to conduct a sort of meta analysis and tabulate for myself how many folks had issues, failures, percieved or verified sway, wrecks, etc from various hitches.

With all other hitches one could find highly satisfied owners as well as disastisfied owners complaining of various issues.

This is difficult because there are many plausible explanations for complaints that may not be the fault of a hitch, but of the user, or the setup, etc...leaving one to be skeptical of various anecdotes.

For PP/hensley hitch users across all the forums I could glean from, the experience is near universal...that they are highly satisfied, experience no sway, and enjoy towing more.

Ultimately I do not mind entertaining the idea that it is a placebo effect....without true randomized controlled trials I would not rule this out.

However, as a meta-analysis, I personally found the results compelling enough to blow the money on this hitch given the broad experience with this type of hitch.

Perhaps I am mistaken and I have been duped....but realize that your self reported perfectly happy with your hitch anecdote really hold just as much water as the next anecdote...

I am a very skeptical person, and I am very wary of anecdotes....but gathering of the best evidence in this case can at least produce an analysis that at least gives some weight and provide understanding why folks choose to spend 2500 bucks on the hitch....for what they think based on this information may spell out a safer tow...

Ultimately that may be bunk perhaps....but the analysis is not an unreasonable one in my opinion.

You can see my hitch thread and see the evolution of my analysis if you like....

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My anecdote is that we have used our Hensley since 2002 and have never experienced any sway. Yep, it is negative evidence, but after 11 years, we feel pretty darn good about the purchase. In that time, I think I have seen only one mention of sway with either a Hensley or ProPride hitch. If I recall correctly, that involved wet pavement, locked-up brakes, and driving downhill.

Would we buy a ProPride instead of a Hensley today? Perhaps, but we are not in the market since our Hensley is still in good shape. Sean certainly seems to provide very good service (that is what we have also experienced from Hensley).

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Old 08-08-2013, 08:33 PM   #36
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After several years, and at least three revisitations on this same thread about a single weld failure on a single hitch, I really think it's time to move on. Shouldn't y'all be out camping, or something?

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Old 08-08-2013, 10:18 PM   #37
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It would appear they would rather sit around the camp fire and brag about whoz got the most expensive hitch....


And for those that can't read I said up to 80 mph in calm conditions.



Ps...I've never used a sway bar on either of my cheap equalizer hitches and have never experienced any tail wagging.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:26 PM   #38
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For PP/hensley hitch users across all the forums I could glean from, the experience is near universal...that they are highly satisfied, experience no sway, and enjoy towing more.
If I paid $3000 for a trailer hitch I'm guessing I'd proclaim to the internet world how I enjoy towing more with my $3000 hitch....lol

You honestly think I'd be telling the internet world how dumb it was ?

There's an old saying.....believe about half of what you read on the internet and be real skeptical of the other half.
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If I paid $3000 for a trailer hitch I'm guessing I'd proclaim to the internet world how I enjoy towing more with my $3000 hitch....lol

You honestly think I'd be telling the internet world how dumb it was ?

There's an old saying.....believe about half of what you read on the internet and be real skeptical of the other half.
Including the above.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:53 PM   #40
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I guess if I paid $3000 for a trailer hitch I'd be toting a chip on my shoulder too....
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:10 PM   #41
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Folks bought the hitch because the believe it to be worth it.

If people are wrong - they were misguided by very consistent anecdotal evidence....

In my opinion calling this "dumb" is both unwarranted and FWIW it comes off offensive

If your goal is to understand the rationale and offer critique - that's fine - but perhaps do it without calling people names
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:16 PM   #42
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I guess if I paid $3000 for a trailer hitch I'd be toting a chip on my shoulder too....
In this thread, I don't think anybody has asked you to buy a hitch you think is too expensive. Please let us buy what we wish and you can do as you wish, without chastising us for being foolish or having a chip on our shoulders.

By the way, if I had it to do all over again, I would buy either a ProPride or Hensley hitch in a heartbeat. I just consider it good insurance.

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