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08-08-2013, 10:10 PM
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Rivet Master 
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Folks bought the hitch because the believe it to be worth it.
If people are wrong - they were misguided by very consistent anecdotal evidence....
In my opinion calling this "dumb" is both unwarranted and FWIW it comes off offensive
If your goal is to understand the rationale and offer critique - that's fine - but perhaps do it without calling people names
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08-08-2013, 10:16 PM
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#42
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,567
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC
I guess if I paid $3000 for a trailer hitch I'd be toting a chip on my shoulder too....
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In this thread, I don't think anybody has asked you to buy a hitch you think is too expensive. Please let us buy what we wish and you can do as you wish, without chastising us for being foolish or having a chip on our shoulders.
By the way, if I had it to do all over again, I would buy either a ProPride or Hensley hitch in a heartbeat. I just consider it good insurance.
Tim
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08-08-2013, 10:21 PM
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#43
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Moderator
2006 19' International CCD
Olathe
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,224
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Mod hat on. We have a "be nice" rule and expect our members to abide by it. If you don't like or believe a hitch should cost x amount of dollars,then don't buy it or "bait" people into an argument.
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08-08-2013, 10:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
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LFC, i didn't say how much.
I hoped this would have been friendly.
Adios... Peace to you.
Channing
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08-09-2013, 05:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
Decatur
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 691
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One thing about the internet and this Forum in particular, I sure have learned a lot. As a PP user, the only skepticism that I might have is if someone claimed to build something better.
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08-09-2013, 05:42 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Personally, I would paint that weld area white so you can see cracks before they become a problem. The black paint covers up any cracks that otherwise would be visible long before failure. I guarantee that failure did not happen all at once.
Perry
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08-09-2013, 06:13 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
Personally, I would paint that weld area white so you can see cracks before they become a problem. The black paint covers up any cracks that otherwise would be visible long before failure. I guarantee that failure did not happen all at once.
Perry
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Looks like a fresh break of a brittle MIG weld to me.
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08-09-2013, 06:31 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Well we can't see both parts but there is rust where a crack was there for a while. Those welds are loaded in tension which I don't really like.
Perry
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08-09-2013, 07:45 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Probbley insufficient penetration where 2 welds met causing a hole for water to get in Perry.
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08-10-2013, 05:48 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
Vintage Kin Owner
Memphis
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Looks like a design flaw to me....
For $3000 I would expect that 90 degree elbow to be forged out of one piece instead of a butt weld between two pieces.
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08-10-2013, 05:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Yeah kinda what I was thinking or at least gussets on both sides instead of one in the middle. The yoke on the other side would have to be wider then.
Perry
Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC
Looks like a design flaw to me....
For $3000 I would expect that 90 degree elbow to be forged out of one piece instead of a butt weld between two pieces.
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08-10-2013, 07:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC
Looks like a design flaw to me....
For $3000 I would expect that 90 degree elbow to be forged out of one piece instead of a butt weld between two pieces.
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The ProPride lists for $2345 - $2495 depending on the w.d. bars you choose. But I think you could get a factory remanufactured unit for at least a couple hundred less.
doug
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08-10-2013, 08:41 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC
Looks like a design flaw to me....
For $3000 I would expect that 90 degree elbow to be forged out of one piece instead of a butt weld between two pieces.
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I feel Seans design is sound. I also think his company is first rate. He is just at the mercy of his vendor that is welding his parts. The failed stinger warrants a reveiw of the welding procedure. I dont like MIG welding for anything that is critical. I assure you if that stinger was stick welded with 7018 rod it would be impossible for the welds to break like that, the square tube would would collapst and or tear apart itself, not the weld.
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08-14-2013, 09:33 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Memphis
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 260
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The design flaw is it shouldn't be made from a forged square tube.
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08-14-2013, 09:41 PM
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#55
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC
The design flaw is it shouldn't be made from a "square tube".
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Not very convincing there is any design flaw. Would you explain?
doug
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08-14-2013, 09:49 PM
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#56
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Memphis
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 260
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All drop hitch parts I've ever had any dealings with were made from one piece forged bar stock.....not two pieces that might as well be tack welded together and braced.
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08-14-2013, 10:08 PM
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#57
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC
All drop hitch parts I've ever had any dealings with were made from one piece forged bar stock.....not two pieces that might as well be tack welded together and braced.
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I've got a ProPride, Equal-I-Zer, and Andersen in the garage. They're two pieces butt-welded with gussets, except the Andersen which has no gusset.
doug
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08-14-2013, 10:21 PM
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#58
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC
The design flaw is it shouldn't be made from a forged square tube.
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It's not square tube, but solid steel.
doug
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08-14-2013, 10:23 PM
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#59
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Memphis
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 260
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Okay you win....
It was just a fluke accident just like a Goodyear Marathon blow out.
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08-14-2013, 10:26 PM
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#60
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Memphis
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC
The design flaw is it shouldn't be made from a forged square tube.
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I meant to say it "should" be made from one forged piece.
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