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Old 06-24-2014, 10:25 PM   #211
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This weeks Under the Awning photo was just taken at MacGregor Point Provincial Park. My old Jeep CRD is visiting and continues to perform beautifully. It now has 350,000 k on it. It previously towed a 25' Safari about 100,000 k and a 30' Signature about 30,000 k. The 2014 Jeep Diesel has now towed the 30' Signature about 13,000 k without a single issue. It will get its first oil change tomorrow before I head out to Alberta, 3500 k. I have had no overheating issues with either vehicle ( or any of my other 5 previous Jeeps) Others have apparently not been so lucky, although I have read about fears but no actual problems. The new Diesel and the 8 speed Trans are just simply fantastic. ( the caveat being I have no experience with any other brand, if it ain't broke, bla,bla,bla) JimAttachment 214861



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All evidence is pointing to the English units version of the Jeep sold in America as prone to problems. Metric unit versions, those driven where distance is measured in kilometres are fine. The fix is for America to convert to metric units and drive 55km/hr.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:03 AM   #212
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13.7 m/us gal pulling into nasty wind,
23.0 m/us gal not towing around city,
I don't have a non towing highway number yet. Seems reasonable for a new diesel with 16,000 k. Jim


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Old 07-13-2014, 07:15 AM   #213
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Thumbs up GC EcoDiesel Performance Update

Our return to Durango, CO in early July provided the opportunity to watch for engine overheating on a couple of significant mountain passes. Towing our FC23FB (5673 lbs loaded) west on US 160 out of Walsenburg, we encountered La Veta Pass (el 9,413 ft). Ambient temperature was 88F at the bottom and the weather was dry. Its a long steep climb, and except for one stop for road construction, I let the adaptive cruise control keep us at 50 mph. With the air-conditioning operating, I watched the engine cooling temp climb from mid-gage to the line beginning the fourth quadrant, just below the caution zone. There it stayed until we crested and began the down slope, when it quickly cooled down to mid-guage. Descending, I only needed an occasional touch of the brake to supplement engine breaking.

Oil and Trans temps heated a bit, but nothing special.

After a nice stopover in the San Luis Valley, we resumed our homeward journey and took Wolf Creek Pass (el. 10,857 ft., 8% grade) in stride. Again, a dry road on a warm day and the engine performed similarly.

Average mpg for the Walsenburg to Durango leg was 17.3. Overall average for the trip from St Petersburg FL to Durango (2321 miles), with a lot cruising at 65 mph, was 17.6.

We're off to visit the kids in WA state and Olympic National Park next week!
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:40 PM   #214
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Non towing highway mileage over 1600 k yesterday was 29.4 miles per US gal. Jim


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Old 07-19-2014, 08:25 PM   #215
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After a lot of research (and visiting multiple auto dealerships) I bit the bullet and traded my 2007 Jeep GC Diesel for a 2013 Mercedes ML350 Diesel. The Jeep was a great tow vehicle and gave me 145,000 miles of service. Its Mercedes engine never overheated.

With all the discussion about overheating with the new Jeep GC Fiat diesel, I decided to stick with a proven engine and just buy a Mercedes. Even though I thought my Jeep rode very nice, the Benz is much, much better. It is super quiet and has much more power than the older version Mercedes diesel. The best part was that the Mercedes was very similar in price to the Jeep.

By buying a one year old CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) auto I got a 7 year unlimited mileage warranty. The warranty on a new Mercedes is 4 years, 50,000 miles.
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:43 PM   #216
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After a lot of research (and visiting multiple auto dealerships) I bit the bullet and traded my 2007 Jeep GC Diesel for a 2013 Mercedes ML350 Diesel. The Jeep was a great tow vehicle and gave me 145,000 miles of service. Its Mercedes engine never overheated.

With all the discussion about overheating with the new Jeep GC Fiat diesel, I decided to stick with a proven engine and just buy a Mercedes. Even though I thought my Jeep rode very nice, the Benz is much, much better. It is super quiet and has much more power than the older version Mercedes diesel. The best part was that the Mercedes was very similar in price to the Jeep.

By buying a one year old CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) auto I got a 7 year unlimited mileage warranty. The warranty on a new Mercedes is 4 years, 50,000 miles.
We tow 27 classic with an 08 ML diesel, saw a '13 ML towing a 30 today. What a great looking rig. You won't go wrong. Enjoy the ride and the quiet. Because it was an 08 we had the hitch reinforced and use a hensley beautiful towing experience.
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Old 07-20-2014, 10:19 PM   #217
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Grand Cherokee Diesel - First Sway Experience!

We're the road from Durango to WA State. Great fun towing N on 550 from Durango to Grand Junction. What a thrilling and awesome roadway!

It happened on I80 between Salt Lake City and Bonneville Salt Flats. 32881 miles of of towing our FC23FB with Equalizer Hitch without a hint of sway, and then it happened! (24000 miles with an 08 Diesel Grand Cherokee, and now >8000 miles with our 2014 GC Diesel). Towing at 65 with high cross winds, my drivers side towing mirror slipped loose and I over-reacted, pulling the wheel hard to the right and hitting the brakes. The tail wagged the dog for about 2 long seconds, and then the Grand Cherokee anti-sway kicked in, applying braking to each wheel in sequence to bring things back into line. It was amazing! All over in about 5 seconds. I pulled off to the shoulder to capture the dangling tow mirror and thank the engineers at Chrysler.

I stowed both tow mirrors, as they are redundant now that I've installed the rear view camera from Rear View Safety. The wireless camera and monitor provide much better visibility of vehicles approaching astern.

Regarding the GC engine temperatures: Towing in high July temperatures, we've crested many passes in CO and Utah. Coal Bank Pass and Molas Pass on 550 are both a good pull. On each the engine temp increased right to the beginning of the fourth quadrant on the gauge, and held there, before cooling back to mid-range on the descent. I've not coddled it, wanting to either prove the engine or break it under warranty. At this point I'm very satisfied with this engine.
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Old 07-20-2014, 10:32 PM   #218
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In my 2014 Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel on quick trip to my property in Steamboat Springs...

Drove from Denver up to Steamboat Springs towing a car in a car trailer (6,540 on scales) for a friend up over 70 through the Eisenhower tunnel.

Set cruise control at 65 and left it, 88 degrees outside, temp climbed one bar over normal with trans and oil about same.

Better than my VW TDI Touareg back in the days towing my 25FB 2009 Classic Airstream.

This engine coupled to that new 8-speed is simply incredible!!!
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:01 PM   #219
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First impressions - 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel and International 23D towing experiences - First trip about 150 miles and just trying to get used to everything. No problems, issues, or concerns. JGC pulled it fine with no problems down and back the Garden State Parkway at an easy 60 mph.

Second trip was around 200 miles from NJ back to MD with a two night stop. Again no issues and it pulled great at around 60 mph, so was comfortable to make a few notes. Temperature specifics were: trans temp about +5 degrees, oil temp about +15 degrees, and engine temp no noticeable difference. MPG came out to 17.9. (Granted the biggest "mountain" we climbed was the Delaware Memorial Bridge.) With a moderate load and some water, the CAT scale indicated: 3,060 steer, 3,340 drive, 4,680 lbs trailer & 11,080 total. Subtracting out known weight in the JGC (2 of us, border collie, nottweiller, misc) indicates a tongue weight of around 605lbs, so the trailer was on the order of 5,285lbs (little heavier than I would have guessed). Good news is we're still under all limits (3,200 front, 3,700 back, 6,800 total JGC, 720 tongue, & 13,100 GCWR). Need to put in the rest of our gear and add a full tank of water, check the weights again, and make sure the WD hitch (Equilizer) is set up perfect.

This is our first post ... and so far we couldn't be happier with the diesel JGC performance and everything about our new Internatl. 23D.



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Sounds like that antisway system really works, thanks for the info. This is really pertinent and useful info. Jim
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:56 PM   #221
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2014 GC Trim levels & options

For those that have made the decision to purchase & tow with the '14 GC diesel, what trim levels and option packages did you get? Trying to sort through whether there are any significant differences between the Limited and Overland trim levels assuming I go with the trailer tow group and eco diesel.

Are there any options that your experience would make highly recommended as "must have"?
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:25 PM   #222
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I got the GC limited 4x4 with luxury group II, off road adventure II, Eco diesel, block heater, and navigation. It's everything I wanted and have no regrets. The next trim up gives you the adaptive cruise control for like 2500. I did not want the fancy cruise control. I hardly ever use cruise when towing. You get worse gas mileage.

I live in ohio and drive in the snow.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:12 AM   #223
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I have the Overland and really like the ACC and also the Quadra Lift Air Suspension. The Jeep maintains its attitude regardless of the weight distribution. The trick is to ensure you visit the CAT scales to confirm that you have dialled in the weight distribution correctly. The Diesel drags around my 30' Signature with out any negative issues. Jim


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Old 08-30-2014, 08:29 AM   #224
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Also check my mileage in posts 212 & 214. I see you are currently having a 5.9. I retired my old 93 5.2 last year with 470,000 k on it only because the Jeep was making the place look untidy with the rocker panels rusting away onto the driveway. Great generation of engines. I think you may be pleasantly surprised to find that the 3 l diesel is actually stronger than the 5.9 since I found that it is a lot stronger than a previous 4.7. Jim


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