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Old 09-26-2012, 11:06 AM   #21
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I just put them both in the back of the truck.
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Old 09-26-2012, 12:55 PM   #22
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generator rack

I am also a new member and a new owner and have been pondering the same question. I have a 3.5 KW Honda that I would like to take along. My 04 Classic has 2 metal brackets directly below the back bumper that look like they are there to attach something to. I tow with a GMC Yukon. With a bad back and a 95 lb wife a roof rack is out. Inside might be an option with a good ramp and dolly, but still would have to unload it at every stop. Northern Tool sells a great looking aluminum receiver mount rack with a fold down ramp for about $250.00. I would really like to hear more input about a rear mount rack. I'm still pretty much intimidated by this AS but airforums has been a lifesaver up to now.
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The general rule for Airstreams is nothing on the back bumper or the back. Airstream does have a new bicycle rack for the back but my understanding it is mostly supported by the shell and bicycles are lightweight. There is only a skeleton frame at the back of the Airstream. Anything that mounts on the bumper or to the frame back there is probably going to hammer the frame away from the shell and cause big problems. The shell is actually pretty rigid and the frame pretty floppy in the back. It is very easy to rupture the aluminum attachment between the shell and the floor. On olders units this separation is a problem without any added weight.
The tongue would seem to be the only place for a generator. I have seem them mounted there. That puts part of the weight on the trailer axle and part of the weight on the front axle of the TV if the WD hitch is working correctly.
Putting the Gen in the trailer might be an option, but not one I would opt for a heavy gen. For weight distribution I personally would not put it behind the axles on the trailer regardless of how or where.
Have been on caravans with people who had a Honda 3000 and a post lift to put it in the truck. Have seen people carry a Yamah 1000 in the back of the SUV with a case.

For the spare tire Airstream makes a spare tire rack that carries the tire under the tongue at the front. Can not see the tire and that leaves the space in behind the propane tank for a gen. These tire racks can be installed in almost any trailer. They do have to cut out part of the belly pan on the older trailers. Newer trailers probably have the recess for the spare tire already built in. You just need to duck under the front and look.
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Before we bought a pickup, I put a receiver on the front of my Excursion, and carried my generator on the front. There are pictures somewhere on the forum, don't have access to pictures at the moment.
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Tranporting Honda 2000i and gas can.

We carry our Honda 2000i inside our vehicle. Numerous forum members have recommended the Rubbermaid Action-packer case for this purpose---works great. I have added weatherstripping to the lid for a better seal. The backup gasoline is another issue. I hate to transport additional fuel inside the vehicle. I thought of propane conversion for the generator, but didn't want to use more LP in cold weather boon docking situations. Then I came across a fuel carrying system used by ATV and motorcycle enthusiasts---Rotopax. This system uses extremely rigid fuel containers that can be mounted to the Airstream frame and locked in place. I mounted my Rotopax locking gas container behind the LP enclosure on the street side of the frame. I have only a one gallon container which worked well on the 3 week Glacier/Banff trip that we just concluded. My initial concern that the container might be too small turned out to be unfounded.
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We use a Honda EU3000is generator. Since I don't tow with a pick-up truck and I won't put the generator in the back of my 4Runner I put it in the AS. I haven't found a sealed storage unit large enough for the generator, but I have found an alternative.

I use a very large dog crate for generator storage. The dog crate has a ledge (lip) in the front area that prevents the generator from rolling out. The generator has 2 wheels on the rear so it doesn't roll around very easily on its own. The crate fits very snugly between the 2 twin beds in the sleeping area of the AS. This location also positions the generator above the axles.

Before I put the generator in the crate I drain all the gas out of the tank and drain the carb. The crate also acts as camouflage of sorts when we're camping. It also mutes the sound of the generator a bit.

I just came back from a 2 week camping trip to Kansas (100 miles each way) and the AS had no smell of gas in it from the generator.

It works!
That is brilliant! How large is the dog crate? Do you have pictures of this "setup"?
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We carry our Honda 2000i inside our vehicle. Numerous forum members have recommended the Rubbermaid Action-packer case for this purpose---works great. I have added weatherstripping to the lid for a better seal. The backup gasoline is another issue. I hate to transport additional fuel inside the vehicle. I thought of propane conversion for the generator, but didn't want to use more LP in cold weather boon docking situations. Then I came across a fuel carrying system used by ATV and motorcycle enthusiasts---Rotopax. This system uses extremely rigid fuel containers that can be mounted to the Airstream frame and locked in place. I mounted my Rotopax locking gas container behind the LP enclosure on the street side of the frame. I have only a one gallon container which worked well on the 3 week Glacier/Banff trip that we just concluded. My initial concern that the container might be too small turned out to be unfounded.
Hope this helps.
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Do you have a picture of your Rotopax mounted?
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Airstream does have a new bicycle rack for the back but my understanding it is mostly supported by the shell and bicycles are lightweight. There is only a skeleton frame at the back of the Airstream. Anything that mounts on the bumper or to the frame back there is probably going to hammer the frame away from the shell and cause big problems. Th

Look at the Fiamma bike rake installation video on the Airstream site. The rack is entirely supported by the chassis frame. The braces to the shell are only for lateral (fore and aft) support. Stated capacity is 70 lbs of bikes + 30 lbs of carrier. Now look at the U-beam that supports the bumper on later models, to which the bike carrier attaches. This is not a weak member.
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Here is a picture of the Rotopax locking fuel container.

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That is brilliant! How large is the dog crate? Do you have pictures of this "setup"?
Thanks! it worked really well on the trip. I'll post a couple of photos of the EU3000is in the dog crate in the next day or so. I also need to check the db rating of the gen in and out of the crate. I really like how the crate helps secure the gen in the AS.
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We use a Honda EU3000is generator. Since I don't tow with a pick-up truck and I won't put the generator in the back of my 4Runner I put it in the AS. I haven't found a sealed storage unit large enough for the generator, but I have found an alternative.

I use a very large dog crate for generator storage. The dog crate has a ledge (lip) in the front area that prevents the generator from rolling out. The generator has 2 wheels on the rear so it doesn't roll around very easily on its own. The crate fits very snugly between the 2 twin beds in the sleeping area of the AS. This location also positions the generator above the axles.

Before I put the generator in the crate I drain all the gas out of the tank and drain the carb. The crate also acts as camouflage of sorts when we're camping. It also mutes the sound of the generator a bit.

I just came back from a 2 week camping trip to Kansas (100 miles each way) and the AS had no smell of gas in it from the generator.

It works!
Oops. That should be "1000" miles each way.
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Here's the dog crate I use to store the generator and a couple of photos of my EU3000is in the crate:









I measured the db rating of the generator at 20 feet using the Sound Level Meter in Audio Tools (A weighted) and here are the results:

Generator outside of the crate at 90 off axis (looking at the gen side with the exhaust facing my right).

Eco on 59db
Eco off 65db

Generator in the crate facing the same direction:

Eco On 57db
Eco Off 64db

Certainly not a definitive db rating test, but a possible use of a big dog crate. I route the cable for the lock through the bottom area of the frame and attach it to one of the axles.

Note: I'm not sure of the distance Honda uses or the db weighting (unweighted, A or C or something else) to determine the db rating. All I can say is that the EU3000is performed perfectly on our trip to Kansas. I kept 3 Airstreams batteries charged all week by plugging into the generator. It stayed on eco mode the whole time except when I ran my AC one night. Awesome generator!!
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I kept 3 Airstreams batteries charged all week by plugging into the generator.

Just sayin'...we have been on the road an entire month with no genny, or hookups, and kept the batteries charged by driving (at least every couple of days).
Have spent 2 weeks at the beach with no hookups and no vehicle charging with 2 Gr 27 AGM's.

No A/C of course...but we run a Maxxair which is fine for us.

My point; don't get trapped into thinking you need to drag a genny along for every trip. Good power management is much less hassle. A week on the road should be easy with good batteries...

p.s. We do run a genny when ski camping...power demand is much greater in winter for us.

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My point; don't get trapped into thinking you need to drag a genny along for every trip. Good power management is much less hassle. A week on the road should be easy with good batteries...

p.s. We do run a genny when ski camping...power demand is much greater in winter for us.

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In my situation we were camped at a music festival for 14 days with no shore power. I don't have solar panels so the genny is necessary. We had 4 TT's parked next to each other (3 were Airstreams of various sizes) and all were plugged into my generator. I ran the generator 3 hours each morning and that was enough to charge the batteries in all TT's. It worked out well.
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Ohh…gotcha’.

Your first post read like you were out for one week and charged 3 batteries.
That is different than 14 days stationary and charging batteries from 3 Airsteams…thanks for clarifying.

Any way…I think we all see a lot of Folks run gennys constantly…just because…when really a little conservation would go a long ways

I agree...solar would be nice to have...

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I wasn't very clear in my post. Sorry about that. In addition to charging the batteries in 4 TT's I also used the generator to charge 3 standalone 12-volt batteries to power LED's and cell phones in our tents. We have a pretty good sized camp at the festival.

I definitely agree that conservation and careful planning will go a long way towards extending the life of your batteries on a trip. I changed out about 1/2 of the interior lights in our AS to LED and this helped reduce our battery usage considerably. The biggest voltage draw from our setup is the furnace, which we used sporadically a couple of nights. That sucker is a power hog!
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Here is a picture of the Rotopax locking fuel container.

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+100 on the RotoPax; $$ well spent! We have two under the canopy in the back of the truck. It is a super design with a superior/secure/safe mounting system.
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We carry our Honda 2000i inside our vehicle. Numerous forum members have recommended the Rubbermaid Action-packer case for this purpose---works great. I have added weatherstripping to the lid for a better seal. The backup gasoline is another issue. I hate to transport additional fuel inside the vehicle. I thought of propane conversion for the generator, but didn't want to use more LP in cold weather boon docking situations. Then I came across a fuel carrying system used by ATV and motorcycle enthusiasts---Rotopax. This system uses extremely rigid fuel containers that can be mounted to the Airstream frame and locked in place. I mounted my Rotopax locking gas container behind the LP enclosure on the street side of the frame. I have only a one gallon container which worked well on the 3 week Glacier/Banff trip that we just concluded. My initial concern that the container might be too small turned out to be unfounded.
Hope this helps.
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The 24 gallon Action Packer will not hold a Honda 2000i.
Do you use the 35 gallon size ?
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Guess where the Honda 3000 is on my boat. BTW I added the wireless remote start kit, well worth the cost, and a easy install. I also have 2 of the 2000 units which can't be beat for portability. But the electric start on the 3000 sure makes life easy.

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