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09-21-2013, 09:02 PM
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#261
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Originally Posted by Steamy1
if you add spacers, then is there the possibility that the rack is out of alignment? The instructions does not say anything about grinding, but it does not say anything about spacer bolts either.
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Hi, you might have seen in the video that the tubes will need to be flexed a bit to align with the mounting brackets. So a little outward flexing shouldn't hurt anything. I would do it.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
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10-24-2013, 11:25 PM
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#262
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Currently Looking...
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Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 916
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I installed an Airstream/Fiamma rack on my International 19 last week. It went pretty smoothly.
You'll need to buy 4 #10 stainless steel screws, #30 and 1/4" drill bits, anticorrosion compound (for the screws) and watch the Airstream install video on YouTube. You'll have to fill in the blanks at time but it's a heck of a lot better than relying on the the printed instructions.
One large mountain bike fits nicely.......two....not so much.
Fiamma sells racks that support a wider spacing for the wheel channels. I'm looking into buying the deeper u shaped support piece that will allow more distance between bikes..
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2017 Airstream International Serenity 25FB
2016 RAM 2500 Crew Cab Cummins 6.7 Diesel
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04-17-2014, 04:47 PM
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#263
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Moultrie
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 521
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aage
Until they offered the Fiamma rack, for many years Airstream warned that carrying things on the back of the trailer was NOT a good idea. Not sure why they changed their corporate mind after many years of warning against doing that, but they did.
However, when you say you are carrying 5 gallon jugs in the rear storage, I hope you mean empty ones, since each one weighs over 41 lbs filled. The effect of that weight is also magnified by the fact that it is behind the axle.
The "moment of the arm" affect of that water's weight can be devastating to your frame.
Note: if I am misunderstanding what it is you do with the jugs, please ignore these comments.
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I agree. I like the idea, but somehow it makes me nervous. After dealing with what rear end separation can do, I am on the fence with this one.
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04-17-2014, 05:00 PM
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#264
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2 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB International
Dayton
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 23
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We put two 29er mountain bikes on ours and incredibly they only touch in one place. Really kind of unbelievable how they nest together. Try moving the rear tire to the end of the channel on both bikes.
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04-23-2014, 08:38 PM
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#265
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Rivet Master
2018 33' Classic
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Grand Rabbits
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 612
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Bike carriers
We finally broke down and bought the Swagman XP5 for our bikes... I am intending to use it as a received mount on the front of the truck rather than on the rear of the trailer. I'll take photos when I get it. I'm sure it will catch most of the highway bugs.
http://www.swagman.net/products/sing...xp-racks/xp-5/
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04-30-2014, 03:44 PM
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#266
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3 Rivet Member
2014 23' International
Saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 106
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Hey All,
I just got a quote on having the fiamma rack installed on my 23ft - the dealer said it would take 6 hours of labor - does that sound right to you guys who have installed it? Also they said they'd only installed one other rack so I'm not that confident. Anyone near St. Louis have any recommendations for an installer? My husband may try it - its really time that is our issue.
Let me know,
Lois
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2014 23d Int'l CCD
TV: Toyota 4runner
"Homer"
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04-30-2014, 04:26 PM
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#267
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,673
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Front Receiver and Hollywood HR1000
Reese/Drawtite front receiver - $159 from Amazon, 20 minute no-drill install
Hollywood HE-1000 2-bike rack - $249 from local bike shop. Very well made, strong and stable
I can also use the front receiver when parking the trailer in the driveway. Gonna get a wheel foot for the tongue jack to take some load off the front end.
Al
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2002 Classic 30 Slideout -S/OS #004
2013 Dodge 2500 Laramie 4x4 Megacab Cummins
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05-01-2014, 05:05 AM
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#268
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3 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB International
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 118
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It took me about 3 hours to install (including grinding a bit of the bumper storage lid to clear the bolt heads). It's pretty easy to do, I was taking it slow to make sure I drilled the holes correctly the first time. To get our 2 mountain bikes on there we moved the tires channels all the at to opposite sides - back one full left and front one full right. The bike then fit without hitting each other.
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05-01-2014, 05:51 AM
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#269
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3 Rivet Member
2014 23' International
Saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 106
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Hey Matt - did you relocate the license plate? I watched the airstream video and they said you needed to do that but it seems a little overboard to us
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2014 23d Int'l CCD
TV: Toyota 4runner
"Homer"
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05-04-2014, 09:44 PM
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#270
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3 Rivet Member
2018 23' Flying Cloud
Eagle Creek
, OR
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 118
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This is probably a dumb questions, but what the heck. Would it be possible to mount a receiver hitch to the rear frame of the AS that could attach a receiver bike rack on the rear of the AS or could be moved to the receiver on the TV?
thanks, Al
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Al & Robin
2018 Airstream 23FB Flying Cloud
2015 F150 XLT 3.5L EcoBoost, 4WD
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05-04-2014, 10:39 PM
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#271
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Currently Looking...
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Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 916
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Quote:
Originally Posted by loislane
Hey All,
I just got a quote on having the fiamma rack installed on my 23ft - the dealer said it would take 6 hours of labor - does that sound right to you guys who have installed it? Also they said they'd only installed one other rack so I'm not that confident. Anyone near St. Louis have any recommendations for an installer? My husband may try it - its really time that is our issue.
Let me know,
Lois
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It took me around 3 hours. Most of the time was spend putting the tubes together. Drilling, bolting and screwing went pretty quickly. I would think that I could get it down to 2 or 2.5 if I hurried.
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2016 RAM 2500 Crew Cab Cummins 6.7 Diesel
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05-04-2014, 10:41 PM
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#272
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 916
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Quote:
Originally Posted by loislane
Hey Matt - did you relocate the license plate? I watched the airstream video and they said you needed to do that but it seems a little overboard to us
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Airstream had to say that. I wouldn't worry about that unless you get a fix it ticket.
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2016 RAM 2500 Crew Cab Cummins 6.7 Diesel
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05-05-2014, 11:36 AM
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#273
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4 Rivet Member
2008 20' Safari SE
Bangor
, Maine
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 255
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The consensus is that this would put too much weight on the rear of the Airstream which could cause problems with the Airstream frame, chiefly rear sagging.
I think some people have done it, not sure what their results have been.
-J
Quote:
Originally Posted by almcate
This is probably a dumb questions, but what the heck. Would it be possible to mount a receiver hitch to the rear frame of the AS that could attach a receiver bike rack on the rear of the AS or could be moved to the receiver on the TV?
thanks, Al
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05-05-2014, 10:44 PM
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#274
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3 Rivet Member
2018 23' Flying Cloud
Eagle Creek
, OR
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 118
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Thanks Jpon... read through some other threads and see the logic of the motion and torque of the receiver hitch messing with the frame/body juncture. Seemed like a good idea in the abstract, but the forum wisdom makes better sense. Probably not that much more expensive for the "approved" rack spreading the stresses across the body and frame. Living in the AS full time, I've been holding off on bikes just because of the hassle of where to put them with living space and storage space at a premium without a home base. Pretty much everything we take does double duty in some respect. Collapsible bikes was one thought, but still a storage and security issue. Would be nice to have a double duty rack to use with the TV, but maybe just putting in the truck bed loose for a quick side trip will work as well.
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Al & Robin
2018 Airstream 23FB Flying Cloud
2015 F150 XLT 3.5L EcoBoost, 4WD
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05-06-2014, 06:32 AM
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#275
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3 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB International
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 118
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Quote:
Originally Posted by loislane
Hey Matt - did you relocate the license plate? I watched the airstream video and they said you needed to do that but it seems a little overboard to us
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No I didn't move the license frame. I haven't been pulled over (yet...). Fiamma sells a fabric bag cover for the bikes that holds a license plate and/or reflector (an Italian requirement) Bike Cover - Fiamma
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05-13-2014, 09:16 PM
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#276
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3 Rivet Member
2014 23' International
Saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 106
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Installation complete - thanks everyone!
Thanks to the help of folks on the forum Jim was able to install the bike rack with no problem in under three hours - NOT the six hours the dealer quoted us....
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2014 23d Int'l CCD
TV: Toyota 4runner
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05-14-2014, 11:52 AM
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#277
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
Currently Looking...
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Los Osos
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 916
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matthorr
No I didn't move the license frame. I haven't been pulled over (yet...). Fiamma sells a fabric bag cover for the bikes that holds a license plate and/or reflector (an Italian requirement) Bike Cover - Fiamma
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Has anyone tried the cover on an A/S?
I'm wondering if it obscures the tail lights at all. Seems like it would.
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2016 RAM 2500 Crew Cab Cummins 6.7 Diesel
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10-13-2014, 12:01 AM
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#278
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Traverse City
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by almcate
This is probably a dumb questions, but what the heck. Would it be possible to mount a receiver hitch to the rear frame of the AS that could attach a receiver bike rack on the rear of the AS or could be moved to the receiver on the TV?
thanks, Al
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Check out this setup from silverbp. He built a frame for the receiver and installed it under the bumper box. I'm doing the same thing. The CW doesn't seem to be supported with data from newer units and my FC20 doesn't have much frame length behind the axle.
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11-24-2014, 10:17 AM
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#279
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2 Rivet Member
2013 25' International
mont st hilaire
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Join Date: Aug 2014
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hi I need to find a cover for my fiamma carry bike
do you have some ideal
'need to be strong winter seasohere
thank you
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02-08-2016, 08:55 AM
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#280
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2 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Apopka
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 28
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Lois I have appointment for install next week at a dealership that does installs all the time and they said the install time is approximately 2 to 2 1/2 hours. Sounds like your quote either doesn't do this often or is overcharging you!
Suzanne
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