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02-03-2009, 04:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Real Time help- How to remove this flange?
Anybody know how to remove this metal flange that is below the toilet? Take a look at this pic. I have removed the screws that still show in the picture.
Thanks!
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02-03-2009, 04:54 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 22' Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 370
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I believe there is a tool that does it, however when they get all rusty like that I have found that two sticks of dynamite works best!
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02-03-2009, 04:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Lol
I was afraid of that! Are they threaded on? I'm afraid if I torque on it too hard I'll ruin the tank.
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02-03-2009, 05:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
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That looks like a regular toilet flange used in houses. It is probably glued to the ABS plastic pipe from below. If it is, you'd have to cut the pipe and couple new pieces on.
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02-03-2009, 05:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Wickenburg
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 547
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A bolt on each side of the flange sticking up about 2 inches. It needs to have threads all the way to the head ,like a carrage bolt.run a nut down on each bolt so they are tight to the flange, then use a long bar layed horizontal to the floor between the 2 vertical bolts. You should now be able to unscrew the flange from the tank. Good luck, this worked on my 67. Adios, john
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02-03-2009, 05:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
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Posts: 1,107
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Bigger hammer
Yes, it's threaded and yes it ruined.
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02-03-2009, 05:29 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 22' Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
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Yea and the dynamite is a lot more fun!
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02-03-2009, 05:30 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 22' Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
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Posts: 370
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Actually it looks like the piece did unthread before it broke? IF so you can just replace the flange
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02-03-2009, 05:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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No! No! No!
Too late.
This is a simple job. Make your own spanner wrench by taking a 1 x 2 board about 12 in long. Drill and put a 1/4 in. bolt...about 1 1/2 in long thru it. about 2 in from the end. Drill and put another 1/4 in by 1 1/2 bolt at a point which will put both bolts in a position where they fit into the flange cut outs. Then simply twist the flange off. Lefty loosey...righty tighty.Replace the flange...throw the wrench away.
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02-03-2009, 06:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
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AH, so they attach directly to the tank. I should have realized that- i've never taken one apart.
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02-03-2009, 08:28 PM
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riverton
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hey you lucked out and had a threaded flange!
when i put a new toilet in my A/S the one i pulled out was glued to the black water tank.
now that was a fun fix with a rubber coupler that didn't really fit right.
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02-04-2009, 08:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
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Well.... thanks everybody I got it off using a chisel and a large hammer, or should I call it a small sledge? Anyway, I made two errors, while removing the acorn type nuts that hold down the toilet to the flange I did not realize that the bolts/studs did not go through the toilet platform. The bolt on one of them just spun as I turned the nut so I ended up cutting the bolt off with a Dremel tool only to find out once I lifted the toilet off that once loosened the toilet could have been rotated and the studs lift out with the toilet. Lesson learned. I'll be removing the black tank today so chime in if there are any tricks!
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02-04-2009, 08:54 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
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Rubber gloves and a mask.
Good luck and take your time. I know its yucky but don't be in a hurry and mess something up permanently. Why are you taking it out? Are you planning on using this tank or getting a new one made?
Brad
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02-04-2009, 08:55 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 22' Flying Cloud
Bend
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Well if you end up needing a new black tank, I've got one for sale!
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02-04-2009, 09:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
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SilverHoot, I assume you are removing the toilet and tank as a prep to doing a floor replacement. The key is to take your time!!!!! I cannot stress this enough. Be very careful not to damage the threads on the tank where the flange attaches. Be sure to support the tank before lowering it to the ground as it could still have some material (yuck) still inside! Then remind yourself that you only want to do this once and make your floor repairs and re-install being aware of how tight you try to thread the flange back on the tank. Remember the tank has age and the welds may be brittle. ED
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02-04-2009, 12:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
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flyfshr, I'm taking everything out to replace maybe the entire subfloor. Pics can be seen here Picasa Web Albums - Mike - 1963 Silver S... There is a bad spot in the flooring that runs under the toilet platform so it definitely needs to be removed so I can check on the integrity of the floor under the platform. Don't think it was the toilet that caused the bad flooring, rather the hot water heater next to it. Going out in a few minutes to work a bit more before having to take a break for a few weeks due to surgery this afternoon.
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02-04-2009, 12:14 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
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SilverHoot - good luck with the floor and a speedy recovery for successful surgery.
All the best,
Brad
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02-04-2009, 02:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2009
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OK, I removed the black tank after cutting the gray drains away from the valve and pulled it all up through the inside. Is it usual to have this LARGE a hole in the floor? Remember I'm a complete newbie to trailers but I am seriously doubting that this trailer came from the factory with with the frame cut away to accommodate plumbing! have a gander...
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02-05-2009, 09:54 AM
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Rivet Master
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Denton
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would this help?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverHoot
Anybody know how to remove this metal flange that is below the toilet? Take a look at this pic. I have removed the screws that still show in the picture.
Thanks!
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When going back with your flange, a very common mistake I have seen is people using screws that are tooooooo long and end up running the srews into the top of the tank.
Click here to see the flange.
Dan
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