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Old 03-06-2010, 07:30 AM   #29
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Oh man, I love this thread. The setups with the convertibles are beautiful.

You guys are car experts and towing geniuses, so tell me this: Is there any way I can realize my dream of towing my 1963 Overlander with a 1965 or 66 Mustang convertible? The Overlander weighs around 4K lbs gross dry. Don't remember what the hitch weight is, but I believe it's somewhere around 450 lbs.

Any chance I could pull this off? The classic Mustangs are a bit smaller and shorter than the one below:

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Oh man, I love this thread. The setups with the convertibles are beautiful.

Is there any way I can realize my dream of towing my 1963 Overlander with a 1965 or 66 Mustang convertible?
Apparently it has already been done with the smaller Airstreams.
The help of a towing specialist with the set up may be required.
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We attended a Tin Can Tourist Rally 3 1/2 years ago. Many of those vintage Airstreams and sob's (really nice ones) are towed by the old classic cars. One in particular GT was behind a '47 Ford woody although I'm sure he had a small block Chevy up front. My first car was a '48 Ford sedan and I had problems just hauling a car load of friends. Another one that I remember was a Bubble behind beautiful black Chevy. The Chevy had plenty of power to pull more weight than a Bubble with it's chromed 454. I should post the pictures but they are on a disc somewhere. If you are interested I dig 'em up but this weekend I got grandsons coming to visit with, of course, our daughter and hubby.
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Old 03-06-2010, 08:27 AM   #32
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Apparently it has already been done with the smaller Airstreams.
The help of a towing specialist with the set up may be required.
Thanks RR! I think you have taunted me with this photo once before.

My Overlander weighs considerably more than that little guy, and obviously mine is much longer, but I'm guessing those clever Canadians could find a way to hook me up.

I don't have the Mustang yet, but it's been my dream car since I was a teenager, and I'd love to combine my dream of owning a classic Mustang with my dream of having a vintage tow vehicle for my Airstream.

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My Overlander weighs considerably more than that little guy, and obviously mine is much longer, but I'm guessing those clever Canadians could find a way to hook me up.
Andy noted that the tongue weight was a bit much for the payload capacity of the Mustang, so he went with 25lb propane bottles and put one of his custom bike racks on the back. However, your early Overlander might be fine.

The downside, in my thinking, is that a '60s Mustang is not nearly the car that the new one is in terms of power, stability, and body structure.
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Andy noted that the tongue weight was a bit much for the payload capacity of the Mustang, so he went with 25lb propane bottles and put one of his custom bike racks on the back. However, your early Overlander might be fine.
Yes, checking the specs on a modern 23' unit (is that what the new Mustang above is towing?), the GVWR is 6,000 lbs, which is considerably more than my vintage Overlander. Of course, the 26' Overlander is still 3' longer, which I'm sure can affect the stability.

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The downside, in my thinking, is that a '60s Mustang is not nearly the car that the new one is in terms of power, stability, and body structure.
Right, those are my thoughts as well. I was guessing that some modifications would be required, if it can be done at all. That's why I'm hoping the major gear-heads on this thread can confirm to me that my dream might someday be a reality!
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We attended a Tin Can Tourist Rally 3 1/2 years ago. Many of those vintage Airstreams and sob's (really nice ones) are towed by the old classic cars. One in particular GT was behind a '47 Ford woody although I'm sure he had a small block Chevy up front. My first car was a '48 Ford sedan and I had problems just hauling a car load of friends. Another one that I remember was a Bubble behind beautiful black '55 Chevy. The Chevy had plenty of power to pull more weight than a Bubble with it's chromed 454. I should post the pictures but they are on a disc somewhere.
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Nice pics, Neil, those are some cool slides!
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You can do anything you want to a classic mustang to bring it up to spec. Kits are available to drop in a modern fuel injected engine, disc brakes all around, rack and pinion steering, even front and rear independent suspension, add seatbelts (no factory shoulder belts before 68) If you can imagine it, it's not only possible, but someone probably makes a kit for it.

I think the 67 or 68 brochure shows a Caravel being towed by a yellow mustang fastback. It's something I try not to think about, it could get very expensive!
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So, if the truck can tow 9600 lbs, why can't Muffin tow 7,500 lbs? One of those things I keep teasing Kay about. Certainly not a serious thought - putting a 7,000 pound 31' trailer behind my little 'Stang.
Well, of course we all know it's more than the HP that determines the answer to that, but reading your response, something you said peaked my curiousity.

Your TT is just under 5,000 lbs dry, can you really stuff 2,500 lbs of cargo into it?

Dat's a lot of "stuff"!
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We attended a Tin Can Tourist Rally 3 1/2 years ago. Many of those vintage Airstreams and sob's (really nice ones) are towed by the old classic cars. One in particular GT was behind a '47 Ford woody although I'm sure he had a small block Chevy up front. My first car was a '48 Ford sedan and I had problems just hauling a car load of friends. Another one that I remember was a Bubble behind beautiful black Chevy. The Chevy had plenty of power to pull more weight than a Bubble with it's chromed 454. I should post the pictures but they are on a disc somewhere. If you are interested I dig 'em up but this weekend I got grandsons coming to visit with, of course, our daughter and hubby.
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Neil,

Was the woody from Sepastapol or Tahoe? If so, I think that I saw them several years ago at the Silver Trailer Social and they have a 454 Chevrolet not a small block.

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Was the woody from Sepastapol or Tahoe? If so, I think that I saw them several years ago at the Silver Trailer Social and they have a 454 Chevrolet not a small block.

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Tahoe. The small block was just a guess. I have a Buick 455 in my Jeep pickup and that fills up it's engine bay. If there is a 454 in that Ford (I had a '48 Ford) he cut up a lot of engine bay to fit it in. I didn't get a close up look.
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The downside, in my thinking, is that a '60s Mustang is not nearly the car that the new one is in terms of power, stability, and body structure.
I think this is correct. The new Mustangs have so many improvements over the original ones. As Stef commented it would take a fair bit of work to get the classic Mustang into my comfort zone.

It is interesting to note. Around 1965 my dad took me to the Ford dealer in Oakville Ontario. They just got in a "just released" 65 Mustang fastback. It was in the show room and it was a piece of art. I told my dad he had to buy one. He said sorry, just not heavy enough for towing the 16' Mallard TT we had back then. He ended up buying a 1964 Dodge 440 with a 313ci.
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