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03-20-2022, 01:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
2023 28' Flying Cloud
Monmouth
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 629
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28 Thread
Where are the 28s?
We are thinking of going from our much loved 1971 Overlander to a FC 28 Twin.
I think we are leaning towards new, but while looking for used the 28 seems a rare beast.
Dealer says the 27 is more popular because it allows the microwave and the LP oven as well as the hatch option. We don’t want a microwave or a hatch.
Who has a 28 (International or Flying Cloud)? What are your thoughts on your unit? We like the floor plan for our family of 4 humans, a lab, and often a cat. Especially the separate lounge and dinette with completely separate sleeping for our soon to be teen boys.
However, we have only seen the 28 on paper and never in person because they just aren’t around, so any thoughts from 28 owners are well appreciated. For instance, where would you put a boot dryer (we use our unit every weekend for our ski accommodations) or the dog water bowl so the rushed 11yo doesn’t kick it over?
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03-20-2022, 07:05 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 28' Flying Cloud
Chapin
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 314
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We have a 2018 FC 28 RBQ. We went back and forth between the 27 and 28 floorplans. We preferred the L couch in the front that faced the television and the separate dinette. We have a microwave and have no need for the oven. We went with the Flying Cloud over the International because the FC has the overhead cabinets over the dinette, which serve as our pantry. The International has additional oval windows instead of the cabinets.
Our large dog's raised feeder is somewhat in the way no matter where we put it, but it sits just inside the door, against the back side of the dinette. We have never kicked it and the dog is the least in the way when eating or drinking. As for boot warmers, never owned one and would pull the AS south until boot warmer no longer needed, but that's just me. I would think they would work under the dinette, against the wall. An outlet is under the table and could still sit 3-4 people. Every floorplan has its pros and cons, but the 28 has been a good fit for us.
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03-21-2022, 06:13 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 28' Flying Cloud
Clayton
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 400
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We also have a 2018 FC 28 RBQ. We like the floorplan. It worked great for us for four years until we decided the front sofa wasn't very comfortable to reading or watching TV for more than a brief time.
We now have a pair of recliners, and the short part of the "L" shaped sofa was replaced by more kitchen counter, three more drawers, a microwave, and a place for six bourbon or wine bottles. Have only been on one trip with this setup, but so far we love it.
We don't have a dog or boot warmer so can't speak to that, 'though we have friends with a 28 foot twin bed model and travel with three dogs who are quite comfortable.
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03-23-2022, 10:15 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
2023 28' Flying Cloud
Monmouth
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 629
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Trying to decide if a lift needs to factor into our build and purchase price. Anyone have trouble on an off ferries, steep driveways, or moderate dirt road boondocking on Forrest service and BLM lands?
I am leaning toward running it at stock height until we find a reason to lift it, but I don’t want that reason to show up will jumping on a ferry when heading for Vancouver Island.
Our Overlander rides higher with its replacement axles.
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03-24-2022, 05:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 30' Classic
Thousand Oaks
, California
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,637
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When you lift, your rear end no longer is a worry. If you’re already worried about it then it may be best to just do it. Have you considered a 30 bunk? You would no longer be able to use the top bunk but the dinette still turns into a bed as well.
I have a 30 classic and lifted our unit. Really great move for us as we prefer to boondock as much as possible.
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03-24-2022, 10:41 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 28' Flying Cloud
Chapin
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 314
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I installed the Dexter lift on my 28' the first year. The lift, TPMS, and battery disconnect switch are the top three best things I added. Both the tail and hitch drop shank would drag getting in and out of driveway without using boards and swapping out the hitch to a straight shank. Both a PITA. With the lift, tail clears and was able to shorten the hitch drop shank. Have also had a few road to pit stop transitions that I'm sure would have scraped without that extra clearance.
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03-24-2022, 06:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
2023 28' Flying Cloud
Monmouth
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 629
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Cool. Lift will be a mod we make for sure.
Thanks for the 30ft bunk recommendation, but 28 is the sweet spot of a lot of our camping. We have been in many places where a 30 wouldn’t go.
We are about to get a deposit in and get in the build line. Sounds like most likely 4th quarter some time.
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03-24-2022, 09:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,311
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I have a 28' International Serenity.
We like it because of the lounge area and not having to twist neck to watch TV. It is also easy to set up as a bed when our grandchildren sleep with us without having to mess with the table.
We have a foot rest for the couch (ottoman storage box). Works great since it is double duty foot rest and storage.
Also the storage underneath couch is nice, and access to the water heater is easy.
We also have 2 dogs.
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03-24-2022, 10:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
2023 28' Flying Cloud
Monmouth
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daquenzer
I have a 28' International Serenity.
We like it because of the lounge area and not having to twist neck to watch TV. It is also easy to set up as a bed when our grandchildren sleep with us without having to mess with the table.
We have a foot rest for the couch (ottoman storage box). Works great since it is double duty foot rest and storage.
Also the storage underneath couch is nice, and access to the water heater is easy.
We also have 2 dogs.
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Awesome to hear that it is a kid friendly layout. That’s what we are thinking too. We looked hard at the International. DW was really heart set on having an International replace her International.
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03-25-2022, 07:31 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
2023 28' Flying Cloud
Monmouth
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 629
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Anyone with 1 AC wishing they had a second?
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03-25-2022, 08:01 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 27' Safari FB SE
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thiss
Anyone with 1 AC wishing they had a second?
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I didn’t just wish for a 2nd AC, I paid the Mothership to install one last Fall. Very, very nice to have here in South Florida.
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03-25-2022, 10:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
2023 28' Flying Cloud
Monmouth
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n2916s
I didn’t just wish for a 2nd AC, I paid the Mothership to install one last Fall. Very, very nice to have here in South Florida.
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Oh for sure! If we didn't live and mostly travel through the PNW we would have gotten a second.
Notice how I said, "gotten"?
We placed our order today!
2023 28 RBT with Seattle Mist, awning package, and solar package.
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03-25-2022, 11:04 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 28' International
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 372
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We have a 2021 28' International RBT. We previously owned a 25'FC RBQ and we MUCH prefer the twin layout, it's almost like getting another "room". Would never go back.
We also prefer the couch at the front of the trailer and the dinette setup.
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03-25-2022, 02:40 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2020 28' International
Wilmington
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 127
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We have a 28 International Serenity and really love it! We had a 25 FC previously and this unit just hits the sweet spot. We know a lot of people who have 30 footers, and it is appealing for the extra room, but the 28 gives us everything we need, easy to tow and back, and plenty of room to do pretty much anything. We like the banquette seating, the dual HVAC units and the decor.
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03-25-2022, 03:06 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2000 28' Excella
Godfrey
, Illinois
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 80
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Perfect fit for us
We have a 28 and the plan is to keep it as long as we can. I would hate to give up the extra skylight for an AC. We've always gotten by with just the one and if you're in an area where you really need a second, it's time to head North.
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03-25-2022, 05:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,311
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I have 2 AC’s One could get by with 1, but I wouldn’t want to unless I was in a shaded area. I guess it depends to some degree what part of the country most camping is done. I would definitely get all the awnings on the windows etc. Also the AC units serve as heat pumps in a nice efficient way.
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