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12-04-2011, 06:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Equal-i-zer 600/6000
Anyone ever used a 600/6000 pound Equal-i-zer hitch with a heavier trailer...say maybe an 8000 pound? Would it be safe? What I know about the bars, it seems like it would work, but isn't the head smaller also?
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12-04-2011, 06:58 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1988 32' Excella
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There are numerous threads on hitching. They all end the same way, many strong minded individuals banging there heads against the computer screen trying to prove there point is more right then the other guy. Thanks for starting yet another debate. Easy answer to question. Get the proper size for the weight of your rig and enjoy a cup of joe by the campfire. No disrespect.
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12-04-2011, 07:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
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Yes, Rumship, I've read most all the hitch threads, and participated in a lot of them.
I've asked some specific questions here, and I'd like to hear from those who have experience with the EqualI-zer. Do you have experience with one?
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Steve
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12-04-2011, 07:04 PM
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2005 25' Safari
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Anyone ever used a 600/6000 pound Equal-i-zer hitch with a heavier trailer...say maybe an 8000 pound? Would it be safe? What I know about the bars, it seems like it would work, but isn't the head smaller also?
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Hi, may I ask, why you ask this question since you are a Propride person? Or is this one of those, it's for a friend of mine type deals?
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12-04-2011, 07:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, may I ask, why you ask this question since you are a Propride person? Or is this one of those, it's for a friend of mine type deals?
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No, I'm not getting rid of the ProPride. It's for a potential temporary thing I am contemplating.
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12-04-2011, 07:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Steve, If EQ would wake up and make the bars interchangeable, I might still be an Eq guy. IMHO, the 6000 lb head is the problem.
I would need a 10,000# head and 600# bars for my rig. Ain't no such animal. I'm a little chicken to sleeve the head so a 600# bar would fit, and REALLY chicken to take a grinder to 1000# bars to increase flex. (both had been suggested to me in the past)
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12-04-2011, 07:11 PM
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2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
Steve, If EQ would wake up and make the bars interchangeable, I might still be an Eq guy. IMHO, the 6000 lb head is the problem.
I would need a 10,000# head and 600# bars for my rig. Ain't no such animal. I'm a little chicken to sleeve the head so a 600# bar would fit, and REALLY chicken to take a grinder to 1000# bars to increase flex. (both had been suggested to me in the past)
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Yes, all this I understand. But would you personally use a 6000 lb head with a 8000 lb load? Would it handle it, temporarily, or would it self destruct?
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12-04-2011, 07:17 PM
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Rivet Master
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OK, found some specs: Equal-i-zer® Hitch - Product Info - Specifications
In the weight section of the hitch heads, both the 6000 and the 10000 hitch head boxes weigh 62 pounds. Seems like the heads are at least the same amount of "mass"?
Has anyone compared the 6000 and 10000 pound heads side by side?
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12-04-2011, 07:26 PM
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We have an Equl-i-zer hitch. We used it on our 22'CCD and now use it on our 27'.
I want to see where this goes.
Jay
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12-04-2011, 07:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Yes, all this I understand. But would you personally use a 6000 lb head with a 8000 lb load? Would it handle it, temporarily, or would it self destruct?
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No, I wouldn't risk it. It's one thing to risk smaller bars...you're still connected. I'd never risk an under rated ball, head, nor receiver.
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12-04-2011, 07:29 PM
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2007 30' Classic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mjayjensen
We have an Equl-i-zer hitch. We used it on our 22'CCD and now use it on our 27'.
I want to see where this goes.
Jay
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What's the rating though?
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12-04-2011, 07:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
OK, found some specs: Equal-i-zer® Hitch - Product Info - Specifications
In the weight section of the hitch heads, both the 6000 and the 10000 hitch head boxes weigh 62 pounds. Seems like the heads are at least the same amount of "mass"?
Has anyone compared the 6000 and 10000 pound heads side by side?
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That's interesting.........wonder what Eq would say?
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12-04-2011, 07:33 PM
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2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
That's interesting.........wonder what Eq would say?
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Well, I think knowing how lawyers are these days, and how our society is today, we already know the answer to that question.
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12-04-2011, 07:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, may I ask, why you ask this question since you are a Propride person? Or is this one of those, it's for a friend of mine type deals?
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What I want to do is buy a 600/6000 pound used hitch that is available here, and use it to tow a 8000 +,- trailer 1000 miles, and then resell the hitch. I don't want to move my ProPride.
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12-04-2011, 07:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Well, I think knowing how lawyers are these days, and how our society is today, we already know the answer to that question.
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Probably right. I have a receiver on my van where the rating label is long gone and there is no embossed markings. I know it is a Draw-tite. Their 10,000# receiver weighs 42#. Their smaller (8000#, I think) weighs 38#.
I took mine off and weighed it on a balance scale - 42#.
Called Draw-Tite and asked if I was safe in assuming it was a 10,000# receiver. They said no.
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12-04-2011, 08:14 PM
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1988 32' Excella
Bonita
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Yes, Rumship, I've read most all the hitch threads, and participated in a lot of them.
I've asked some specific questions here, and I'd like to hear from those who have experience with the EqualI-zer. Do you have experience with one?
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Yes I have an EQ, some would say im over hitched. But it works for me. Enjoy
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12-04-2011, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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If you lived closer, you could use my 1000/10,000 Eq. It's presently holding my basement floor down.
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12-04-2011, 08:39 PM
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2012 25' Flying Cloud
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I have an Eq 10k and used it to tow both our 20' Safari SE and then our new 25' FC. I don't really see any bar flex on either one, but something must be flexing as I'm going over dips and bumps. That's what I don't like about it, lack of bar flexibility.
Eq said I could use it on either trailer. I set the 20' up with less bar tension, probably with little friction for sway control but I put good downward tilt on the head so when the trailer turned to the side the bars would increase tension and try to keep it in line.
Both trailers towed nicely but I think the aerodynamics, low COG, and independent suspension of the Airstreams account for much of that.
doug k
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12-04-2011, 09:59 PM
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As a general statement, and only my opinion, most things like hitches are designed with a safety factor of 2 or 3 to one. I doubt that a 1000 mile trip with the hitch you propose would be any problem.
When I bought my Caravel, and brought it home, the tires were the original ones that came with the trailer and over 26 years old at the time. Stupid, maybe, or just lucky, but I towed it about 500 miles on those old guys, and all was fine.
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12-04-2011, 10:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba
As a general statement, and only my opinion, most things like hitches are designed with a safety factor of 2 or 3 to one. I doubt that a 1000 mile trip with the hitch you propose would be any problem.
When I bought my Caravel, and brought it home, the tires were the original ones that came with the trailer and over 26 years old at the time. Stupid, maybe, or just lucky, but I towed it about 500 miles on those old guys, and all was fine.
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I doubt it's 2 -3 to one!
I doubt it is anywhere near that...maybe 1.2 - 1.5 times.
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