LNG Powered TV's

[Denis4x4]

Lot of noise lately about Ford and Chevy trucks powered with LNG. I had a small Bobcat skip loader with dual fuel capacity and found that I had to switch over to gas for some jobs. USFS here in Durango has some F150's set up for gas and LNG.

At about $2.80 a gallon, LNG looks good for a daily driver.

[Pick]

Biggest issue is finding a refueling station. CNG might be a better alternative for a daily driver for commuting back and forth to work. Compressors are pricey though and I heard they only last about 500 hours before a rebuild is required. ($3500) CNG filling station would be nice, as long as you didn't forget to fill before the next day, as it takes several hours to refuel the vehicle.

[mustang]

LTL companies tried themin single axle city operations. They worked but worent very reliable

[mustang]

They also had problems in the winter. most of the fleet sat

[SteveH]

Yea, T. Boone Pickins is pushing natural gas as an alternative fuel for vehicles right now....says it's cheaper, and cleaner burning fuel, and will help the US become independent of foreign oil.

What he doesn't tell you is he owns a whole lot of natural gas production.

[moosetags]

I'd sure rather make T. Boone richer than some clowns in the middle east who support our enemies.

Brian

[wahoonc]

There is a huge difference between LNG and CNG. LNG requires some form of cryogenics unit to keep it at the liquid state. CNG is storable at normal ambient temps. The local gas company around here had a huge LNG fleet about 20 years ago. It was done away with because it wasn't cost effective at the time.

Aaron

[markdoane]

Originally Posted by SteveH

. . . What he doesn't tell you is he owns a whole lot of natural gas production.

But he's not the guy that runs the drilling platform, cleans up the refinery, paints the pipes, reads the gas meter, or sends out the invoices. He's not the gal who shops for groceries, builds the houses, buys the cars, and pays the taxes.

Sure T. Boone is on a self serving campaign to make us energy independent. But it seems to be catching on with the mainstream politicians.

[DKDarrow]

There is a huge difference between LPG, better known as propane, which can be obtained at MANY outlets, and CNG, compressed natural gas. CNG is just that. One can easily, if you have natural gas coming into your home, obtain equipment that will fill up a tank, by compressing the gas overnight. It is reported that this will give you a gallon of gasoline equivalent of fuel for $1.25.

The problem is storage. Both LPG and CNG require quite a large tank system. On a TV perhaps the size of a 55 gal drum.

Pollution free, only Honda, at present produces a CNG vehicle. All of the manufacturers produced these vehicles in the past; but little consumer interest. With Mr. Picken's commercial goal, yes self interest, to develop a fuel distribution system that is nationwide, perhaps this time has come.

Dennis

[Over59]

Lots of jobs with CNG. Building and staffing the system. It may not be the best thing for the winter in Maine, but alot of people live below the permafrost belt. Many older communities have natural gas coming into the homes, we heat with it. For a local use car it would be great. The highway tax guys are not happy.

T Boone is rich and will continue to get richer. Doesn't seem to be a good reason reject an idea. He's also behind wind.

Conservation remains the best and most immediate course of action. Just stop driving those extra miles.

[canadianguy]

Originally Posted by Over59

Lots of jobs with CNG. Building and staffing the system. It may not be the best thing for the winter in Maine, but alot of people live below the permafrost belt. Many older communities have natural gas coming into the homes, we heat with it. For a local use car it would be great. The highway tax guys are not happy.

T Boone is rich and will continue to get richer. Doesn't seem to be a good reason reject an idea. He's also behind wind.

Conservation remains the best and most immediate course of action. Just stop driving those extra miles.

CNG should work to well below -100 deg F. You're thinking of LPG, which, depending on the blend, can work to about -25 deg F for a "cold" blend, and to only about 40 deg F for the "warm" blends.

The main problem is filling and handling. If it takes more the five minutes to explain to somebody how to fill their vehicle, they won't care to learn.