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11-29-2010, 01:13 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Entry door flew open while going down highway
The doors internal frame broke on both sides. Can this be repaired or will I have to find a donor trailer to fix this?
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11-29-2010, 02:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1992 34' Limited
Grand Island
, Nebraska
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 248
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I had this happen many years ago on a 1969 International. I was fortunate to know a very good welder who was good with aluminum. If you find someone like that be sure he is very careful to get the proper curve in the frame. once welded I pop riveted the skin back on and never had a problem. The guys on this site know how to use the right rivets so follow their advice and it will be better.
Gene
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11-29-2010, 05:14 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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Get a good welder and next time use a wooden wedge in the grab handle to keep the door shut. We have a dead bolt but I don't even trust that.
Aaron
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Why are we in this basket...and where are we going
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11-29-2010, 06:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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Here we keep on going again......
Neil
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Neil and Lynn Holman
FreshAir #12407
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Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.
1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
455 cid
1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
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11-29-2010, 09:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 28' Ambassador
Vintage Kin Owner
1998 25' Safari
Avonton
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,331
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I had the same thing with a 65. Drilled off the inner panel, then cut two pieces of wood to match the frame curve and clamped them on to hold the shape. Took the door to a welder, good with aluminum, he tacked the break, then I drilled off the outer panel at his shop and he then welded the complete break. It was as good as new when riveted back together. Cost $60
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VAC - TAC ON-1
60 Ambassador Int.
1950 Spartan
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11-29-2010, 10:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1983 27' Excella
Walnut Grove/Laguna Woods
, California
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,635
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Same thing happened to our Caravel. It was my fault, as I neglected to use the dead bolt. There were two brakes, one just above the latch, the other just above the hinge.
I removed the inner skin and towed to a very good welder friend. Then I removed the door. We placed the door on the welding table and supported the top and bottom on 4x4 blocks. This closed the two brakes and caused the door to go back to it's original shape. This will only work if the frame is just broken, not bent. This can be determined by closing the broken door and pushing the top and bottom of the door at the same time to see that it still fits. Very easy after the inner skin has been removed. He welded a bead on the inside and outside of each brake, then ground down the outside beads to a nice finish in the visible areas. He then used some 1/4" thick aluminum to weld support gussets along the where the brakes were and one more at the bottom of the hinge area making the frame stronger than original. I towed back home and replaced the inner skin.
No problem since.
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11-29-2010, 11:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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Fresh Air
I like your "door lock" design. I think that I will copy it for my 66 TW.
Thanks for the photo, Dan
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11-30-2010, 03:44 AM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshAir
Here we keep on going again......
Neil
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Oooh nice!
Ought to market that
Mine is a bit more....rustic.
Aaron
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....so many Airstreams....so little time...
WBCCI #XXXX AIR #2495
Why are we in this basket...and where are we going
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11-30-2010, 06:10 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1989 25' Excella
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Hobe Sound
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 294
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Same happened on my 66 tradewind due to dead bolt lock failure on our first 10 day trip on the first day. The door was the correct shape, but inside out. Removed the interior skin and located a heliarc welder. They welded the frame and I reattached the skin. Traveled for 9 more years before selling with no more incidents. I did take out the deadbolt and pinned it so it would never let loose again!
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11-30-2010, 08:55 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TouringDan
Fresh Air
I like your "door lock" design. I think that I will copy it for my 66 TW.
Thanks for the photo, Dan
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PM me with your email address and I will send you a template.
Neil.
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Neil and Lynn Holman
FreshAir #12407
Avatar;
Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.
1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
455 cid
1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
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12-08-2010, 05:52 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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So if the inner skin is removed the door can be welded while still attached?
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12-08-2010, 06:56 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 23' Safari
Commerce
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 155
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Outside door lock design...
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshAir
Here we keep on going again......
Neil
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Someone on the Forum made one with a rubber door stop & a tent tie bungee (has a plastic ball on the end). We used that idea and it works great. Sorry about your door!
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"You can buy a cheaper burger, but then you gotta eat it." Texas Burger
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12-09-2010, 06:35 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1989 25' Excella
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Hobe Sound
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 294
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Boondocker, When the welding was done, the door was still on the hinges. In fact it made it easier to fit the contor of the opening with a couple of adjustments of the weld,
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12-18-2010, 07:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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Here is my idea. works for me!
When getting ready to hit the road.
1. Store Steps
2. Secure the door
3. Raise the stabilizers
4. Disconnect power, water, TV, sewer, if applicable
5. Hook up TV, hitch; breakaway switch; UCord; safety chains
6. Raise tongue jack
7. Check all lights; tires and brakes.
If I don't do the steps and door first, I'll probably forget them.
I made a check off list, kind of like pilots do when getting ready to take off.
If I don't check it off. I'll forget it and that's not good.
It's still beyond me why after all of these years AS has not reversed the door.
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12-19-2010, 02:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
GLENDALE
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,453
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Just curious, does this problem still exist on newer Airstreams; or is this isolated to older models?
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12-19-2010, 03:02 AM
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Be Calm, Have a Cupcake
Vintage Kin Owner
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 223
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1998 Still a Problem
I have a 1998 34' and it also has a suicide door.
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12-19-2010, 03:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
GLENDALE
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,453
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To clarify my previous question: Do the doors on newer model Airstreams still have problems with cracks in the hinge area, as described in this thread; or has this design deficiency been fixed?
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12-19-2010, 01:32 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
To clarify my previous question: Do the doors on newer model Airstreams still have problems with cracks in the hinge area, as described in this thread; or has this design deficiency been fixed?
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This has nothing to do with hinges or cracks. The latch bolt failed and the door opened. The force of the door hitting the camper cracked the internal framing of the door. The hinge, so far as I can see, is fine.
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12-19-2010, 01:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Hooray for the FB design
We don't have suicide doors !
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12-19-2010, 01:41 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
To clarify my previous question: Do the doors on newer model Airstreams still have problems with cracks in the hinge area, as described in this thread; or has this design deficiency been fixed?
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Hi, No; The newer Airstream door latches are more like the ones on a late model car and the older Airstream door latches are more like a house type latch, But if you don't lock your door and/or close it completely, there is a slight possibility that your door could open while traveling. To be on the safe side, I always lock my door and lock the dead bolt too.
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