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10-01-2022, 10:46 AM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Is there a WH reset? Hidden fuse?
I blew a fuse at the panel and now my water heater doesn't fire up. Is there a reset somewhere or a second fuse?
I need a protocol to trouble shoot this, otherwise its cold showers next week in NM....
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10-01-2022, 12:31 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,744
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Hi
Sometimes fuses blow at random. Other times they blow because something "downstream" died. What did the fuse that blew go to? I'm guessing it went to the control on the water heater, but that's very much a guess. If it did, that control may have died.
Bob
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10-01-2022, 01:51 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
Sometimes fuses blow at random. Other times they blow because something "downstream" died. What did the fuse that blew go to? I'm guessing it went to the control on the water heater, but that's very much a guess. If it did, that control may have died.
Bob
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It was the circuit with the fridge (I was trying to wire in a fan- dont ask). That said, this is a rebuild and wiring isn't factory is my guess. What do you mean "control", is that a circuit board on the heater?
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10-01-2022, 03:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville
, New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,166
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Some hints would help others help you.
Is this for the 68 Tradewind you have listed?
What water heater do you have?
Do you have and know how to use a multi-meter?
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10-01-2022, 03:24 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wazbro
Some hints would help others help you.
Is this for the 68 Tradewind you have listed?
What water heater do you have?
Do you have and know how to use a multi-meter?
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It is for the 68 BUT it has been 100% rebuilt. I mean the outer skin is all that is original. Atwood water heater ( Atwood | Dometic WH-6GEA Water Heater #94002BP).
Do not have one, haven't used one in years.
Im trying to make sure there isnt an easy fix/reset before hiring someone at $100/hr to sleuth it out.
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10-01-2022, 05:06 PM
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Site Team
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 5,582
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Can't guarantee it, but I think that there is a fuse on the circuit board. Perhaps if you pull the cover over the CB you'll see it.
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1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
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10-01-2022, 07:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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if memory serves me there is an external glass fuse that is connected to the " board?" with ell blade connections. I'll look for an image on my laptop and post
edit: granted mine is a Dometic WH GE-9-EXT (vintage 2014) but you may have a similar part near the board. It is immediately above the T-Stat label. Looks like it is contained in some clear shrink tube.
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10-01-2022, 07:59 PM
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Site Team
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 5,582
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CruizinDux
if memory serves me there is an external glass fuse that is connected to the " board?" with ell blade connections. I'll look for an image on my laptop and post
edit: granted mine is a Dometic WH GE-9-EXT (vintage 2014) but you may have a similar part near the board. It is immediately above the T-Stat label. Looks like it is contained in some clear shrink tube.
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The thing in the clear vinyl tube is a thermo-fuse. I believe it's a fall-back safety in case the thermostats fail to stop an overheat situation and/or if the flame escapes the burner area so the fuel shuts off.
If you look at the photo you posted, just below the plug for the wiring harness connection to the board, you'll see a 2-amp fuse. This is the fuse I was thinking about.
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1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
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10-01-2022, 08:17 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard5933
If you look at the photo you posted, just below the plug for the wiring harness connection to the board, you'll see a 2-amp fuse. This is the fuse I was thinking about.
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Is that the red piece?
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10-01-2022, 08:29 PM
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Site Team
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 5,582
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boondocker
Is that the red piece?
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No - I circled the fuse in yellow. You might need to click on it a few times to enlarge to max to see it, but there is a little number '2' on it.
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Richard
11018
1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
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10-01-2022, 08:33 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Got it. Many thanks. Hopefully that will fix it.
Ordered some thermocouplers just in case. I remember one going bad way back once.
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10-02-2022, 06:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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Richard, thanks for the fuse ID/clarification.
b
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10-02-2022, 07:17 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1984 27' Airstream 270
West Chester
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 498
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On one of our trips, the HW heater died on us. All the checking (fuses, couplers, etc) and nothing fixed it. Some research indicated the control boards are a notorious weak point. If the fuse does not fix your issue, do yourself a favor and upgrade it with Dinosaur Electronics replacement board. It worked great and no problems since. The website looks pretty basic, but made in USA, excellent customer service, and obvious upgrade over stock board. They make replacement control boards for almost all rv appliances
https://www.dinosaurelectronics.com/
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10-02-2022, 08:02 AM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kvsterling
On one of our trips, the HW heater died on us. All the checking (fuses, couplers, etc) and nothing fixed it. Some research indicated the control boards are a notorious weak point. If the fuse does not fix your issue, do yourself a favor and upgrade it with Dinosaur Electronics replacement board. It worked great and no problems since. The website looks pretty basic, but made in USA, excellent customer service, and obvious upgrade over stock board. They make replacement control boards for almost all rv appliances
https://www.dinosaurelectronics.com/
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I think maybe I will plan on just replacing that prophylactically. Thanks!
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10-02-2022, 08:05 AM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Thanks everyone!
Hopefully, the information provided will get me going again. I really appreciate the helpful, on-point suggestions.
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10-10-2022, 12:38 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Charlotte
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 160
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The thermo-couple will melt if there is any blow-back from the gas heating tube. It cuts power to the control board and nothing works.
The thermo-couple can be easily by-passed, but only the electric-side of the heater should be used until the heater tube is inspected and cleaned and the thermo fuse is replaced. It maintains safety for the gas-side of the heater.
To troubleshoot, bypass the thermo-couple. If electric side heat now works, the thermo-couple is bad. A different (probably better) test is with a multi-meter and test continuity on the thermo-couple fuse after it is pulled out.
Heater tubes are infamous spider attractions, and once a web is built the ignited gas will blow-back out of the tube. Pull the sheet metal screws and pull the gas tube out and clean out the inside with a bottle brush.
Found all this out in the middle of Wyoming/Montana with nary an RV dealer within 100 miles, but thankfully there was the internet for knowledge and Amazon delivered parts to a campsite in West Yellowstone.
Al
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