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06-15-2008, 06:19 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 27' Excella
French Settlement
, Louisiana
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 85
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window awning
I have to mount a window awning on my rear window and looks like the clearence lights are to low ? Is there a standard to set these ?What do you guys think?
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06-15-2008, 08:20 PM
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WBCCI 11067 WDCU
1986 25' Sovereign
Atlanta
, Georgia
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That is interesting, I would have thought your lights would have been higher in 83. When I installed my awning, I had to move my Airstream emblem and relocate it. My lights were plenty high.
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WBCCI 11067
1986 Sovereign 25' CB
2007 Chevy Silverado 1500
2007 Toyota Land Cruiser
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06-15-2008, 10:58 PM
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Rivet Master
Some Place with a German Name
, Texas
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Yeah, those lights are low. I just did a rear awning install on mine and I think I needed at least 4-5 inches above the window rail.
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06-15-2008, 11:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
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You could always go with the "snap-on" awnings...rather than a roll.
Shari
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06-15-2008, 11:59 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by housebg
I have to mount a window awning on my rear window and looks like the clearence lights are to low ? Is there a standard to set these ?What do you guys think?
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NOPE!.............YOU DON'T MAKE IT!
You need a minimum of 3" to the center of the awning rail from the top of your window trim, and it looks like you have 2.25"
You could still possibly install the Zip-Dee awning, but the cover over the roller tube will slightly overhang your window. It's a tough call whether you want to do that or not.
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06-16-2008, 04:46 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 27' Excella
French Settlement
, Louisiana
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 85
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move the lights up ?
I guess I could move the lights up ,This could be a major job any other Ideas.Billy
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06-16-2008, 06:14 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
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I have an older Carefree of Colorado read awning that came with my trailer (not installed). It is very small and might work, if you can find one...
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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06-20-2008, 03:26 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 27' Excella
French Settlement
, Louisiana
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Well I am going to install like it is
I saw another airstream and it was the same ,so here goes,hope for the best and not be to mad ,with what I have . Well does any one have a offical mounting instructions.It looks cut and dried but who knows.And I need to buy one of the hold open hooks where is this possible.I look over the Zip dee website and saw what they had about Instulation. So here goes Billy
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06-20-2008, 03:44 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
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Quote:
Originally Posted by housebg
I saw another airstream and it was the same ,so here goes,hope for the best and not be to mad ,with what I have . Well does any one have a offical mounting instructions.It looks cut and dried but who knows.And I need to buy one of the hold open hooks where is this possible.I look over the Zip dee website and saw what they had about Instulation. So here goes Billy
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Billy,
You got me thinking and I just measured my rear window awning........it's just 3" above the window frame Uthe rain rail that protrudes from the side of the A/S.
It looks like you will be able to do it........tight......but do-able!!!
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06-20-2008, 05:22 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 27' Excella
French Settlement
, Louisiana
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 85
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I look at the other trailer and it look ok
You would think there was a standard for the light height.But it looks like it is where ever the kid with the drill wants to put them.I have noticed that they are different on all trailers(AS)? Thanks for the help everyone
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06-20-2008, 08:18 PM
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Retired.
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If you wind up having to move the lights, it isn't a catastrophe. You'd just need to drill 3 holes slightly higher than where they are now, directly above the holes you have. Many of the clearance lights have plug-in connectors, so you may not even have to cut and splice wires. Seal up the old holes with vulkem or rivets.
Of course, it will be better if you don't have to move them...
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06-21-2008, 02:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 19' Globetrotter
Laguna Beach
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I like Shari's idea with the snap on awnings... a whole lot easier and won't
entail moving lights up and over or having the awning bars bulk up the look of the rear. Just my opinion...
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06-21-2008, 03:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
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Thanks Debra!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Babeebloos
I like Shari's idea with the snap on awnings... a whole lot easier and won't entail moving lights up and over or having the awning bars bulk up the look of the rear. Just my opinion...
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The only thing with the snap-on awnings that may not work for everybody is, that the windows must be open for them to be deployed. The window is the awning frame. We don't have a/c so we always have our windows open...but I can imagine that if you had a/c and you wanted the awnings out for extra shade so your a/c doesn't have to work as hard...that would be a problem. So I guess it depends on your trailer and your choice of camping locations - where we camp, we don't need a/c 98% of the time...for the 2% (@ most International Rallies), we take a window box unit and don't use the awnings.
Shari
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06-26-2008, 08:52 PM
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#14
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2 Rivet Member
1983 27' Excella
French Settlement
, Louisiana
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 85
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awning lock
Does anyone think I need them or not, some one said that was only for ten ft or longer Billy
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06-26-2008, 10:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 17' Caravel
1983 27' Excella
Walnut Grove/Laguna Woods
, California
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You can put an awning rail just below your clearance lights. Make arms much like Zip Dee arms that attach to the coach via a bracket riveted to the coach and in place of bolts, use 1/4 pins. At the coach end of the awning material sew in the same flexible plastic they always use. At the outer part of the awning material, sew a pocked about an inch wide the full width. Make the awning about five inches longer than the pocket to allow for the part that hangs down. Drill a 25/64 hole hear the outer end of each arm. Get some 3/8 inch aluminum dowel to slide through the awning pocket and the arms. Make it a little longer than needed, drill holes near the end and use hair pin clips to keep the arms from sliding off the dowel.
To hold the awning out from the coach, make two stand-off rods that are in pockets along each end of the awning.
To put it up, slide the awning into the rail, attach each arm to the coach, slide the stand-off dowels into their pockets, slide the arms onto the aluminum dowel, secure with the hair pin clips and you're done. To remove, reverse the procedure, put it all together and roll it up. You can roll the arms and stand-off dowels up inside the awning. You can leave the outer dowel in the pocket.
It will be completely independent of your rear window.
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07-05-2008, 11:42 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 27' Excella
French Settlement
, Louisiana
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 85
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awning up look good
Got it on and looks good kind of tight ,but not bad and if you did not know to look for it you would never notice it.
Now all I need is a 14 ft window awning Billy
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10-21-2012, 10:55 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
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I was searching this subject as I have exactly the same original issue. Answers above seem a bit contradictory. So can I put on a Zip Dee rear window awning with the distances in post #1 without moving the marker lights and not significantly interfering with rear window opening? Anybody got a photo?
I have a similar issue with the roadside awning. ZipDee installation instructions call for the awning rail 4 3/4" above the window frames. This would put the awning right underneath the kitchen stove vent. Problem?
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10-27-2012, 02:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
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Zip Dee says they have mounted lots of rear awnings without moving the low lights with no problem. Said you can also mount the awning rail upside down.
They also said I can lower the awning rail on the roadside awning. Just not so low it interferes with window operation.
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