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10-28-2006, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
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How's Your Slideout?
I have a 28' foot Safari slideout model and absoutely love it. The slideout provides an extra 10 sq ft of floor space which doesn't sound like much, but makes all the difference for interior floorspace. It also makes it bearable to be self-contained with two 95# Yellow Labs!
I was wondering how other SO owners like their slideouts?
Steve
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Steve
"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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10-28-2006, 09:45 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,411
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We are very happy with the slide out on our Classic. I thought long and hard and held my breath. At this point I have no regrets. The hitch weight on my Classic is nearly 1,200 lbs. due to the slide, which initiated the need to upgrade my hitch and receiver to Class V hardware.
The most important thing that will keep the slide functioning is to only extend and retract it with the stabilizer jacks down.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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10-28-2006, 10:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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1200 pound hitch weight? Holy Moly! I thought mine was bad at 1010. Thankfully I don't have to use class V hitch equipment. Do you know how they beef up the frame for the slideouts? I'm curious as I have a phenomenal amount of cargo carrying capacity. My dry weight is 6515 and my GVWR is 9100, which equates to a 2585 carrying capacity... higher than any other Safari.
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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10-28-2006, 10:30 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,411
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I think there is some extra bracing in the slide area. I ran into that when initially looking at a Classic slide out. I noticed a high area in the floor near the fridge in a 30' Classic slide as I walked down the aisle. According to the factory rep from Airstream who was there at the time, there is some additional bracing done, and in this case the trailer I was in may have had a slight defect in the placement, causing a high spot in the floor.
Since my unit was built before Airstream increased the load capacities, I don't have a ton of weight capacity. I think with full holding tanks my cargo capacity is about 660 lbs. or so. Normally the only potential holding tank load I carry is fresh water. My normal cargo load is about 500 lbs. Since I do not carry grey or black water in the tanks when traveling, I still have another 625 lbs. or so to play with on top of the 660 lbs that Airstream states.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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10-28-2006, 11:07 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 34' Classic S/O
Kalamazoo
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 161
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We recently upgraded to a unit with a slide-out. The SO really opens up the front and adds a spacious feel to the area. It also allows enougn room for our daughter's wheelchair and her some mobility without being entirely dependent on us.
It was very much worth the trade up. I do agree that tongue weight is high but this is supposed to reduce sway.
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2001 F250 CC 7.3 PSD 4x4 ("Bubba")
2007 34' SO Classic ("Betty Lou II")
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10-29-2006, 06:06 AM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Towdaddy
It was very much worth the trade up. I do agree that tongue weight is high but this is supposed to reduce sway.
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I really don't believe this was done as a design saftey factor, in essance it's because of the slide unit itself which if I remember right during the JC tour, was stated to be 1,200 lbs., not including bracing, motor and any of the related hardware necessary to move the unit in and out.
I can attest though that with my Equal-i-zer hitch, this Classic is rock solid when towed behind my van. This unit very much acts as if it were part of the van itself. It's very impressive. More so than my '01 27' Safari Reese Dual-Cam lash up which in it's own right was very good.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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10-29-2006, 06:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic Slideout
2021 33FB Classic
Colleyville
, TX
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,540
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We've certainly enjoyed the extra room our S/O provides and especially when the Grandchildren camp with us. We travel with two retrievers and a cat and really appreciate the space when they sleep inside due to weather concerns or whatever. Our only problem was a minor one that involved getting the S/O aligned properly and once we found a great Airstream servicing dealer he solved it easily for us. Every so often the S/O requires a slight push to avoid a catch when extending but nothing drastic. We've noticed two very large rivet heads have sheared off of the exterior banding frame but will have those replaced when doing some interior modifications this winter in Texas. The rivets don't appear that they are likely to cause any particular structural problems at this time. We believe that purchasing the first production year of any particular new design is a risk for the buyer. After thousands of miles on this trailer, we expect it to last us for a lifetime of fun both for us and whomever purchases it at a later date.
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10-29-2006, 08:48 AM
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Rivet Master
Hampton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Love our slide-out. Tow's great. Less filling.
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2019 Airstream Classic 30RBT, 2021 Ford F350 King Ranch 4X4 w/6.7L Diesel, Hensley, ACI #1313
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10-30-2006, 07:56 AM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoominC6
We believe that purchasing the first production year of any particular new design is a risk for the buyer.
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I think the slide first appeared in either 2000 or 2001. I'm betting 2000. There was one retrofit on the first year's production that had to deal with the seals. I was up at JC the summer of 2001 and ran into an owner who was having the work done at the warranty. Apparently they pulled a couple of guys from the plant over to the service center to perform the work.
I silicone the seals inside and out at least once a year to keep them flexible.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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10-30-2006, 09:00 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcanavera
I silicone the seals inside and out at least once a year to keep them flexible.
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What type of silicone do you use Jack? I used silicone spray on mine but I'm wondering if rubbing some silicone grease into the seal would be better.
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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10-30-2006, 09:08 AM
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2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Oh I'm just using plain old silicone spray. The same stuff I use on all the other rubber gaskets on the door and windows. The biggest problem is gaining access to the inner seal on my 30' unit. First you have the storage cabinet that is next to the slide unit itself. It's almost impossible to get a hand into that. The outer seal has its own issues in trying to get to top center due to the awning that covers the slide. I just use a long spray tube to hit the spots that I can't get closer to.
I've never used or seen the grease so I can't comment upon whether that would be a superior product.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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11-04-2006, 09:55 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2010 30' Flying Cloud
2009 16' DWR
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2006
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Hi,
I was wondering about leak with slide out,
is anyone around who had to deal with that ?
dufferin (diane doesn't want me to use my name because she can't remember her password)
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11-04-2006, 10:39 AM
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Rivet Master
Hampton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2005
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leaks
We have had no leaks, and we've been (guess) 5 - 10,000 miles.
If the slide is out and it rains, sometimes rain collects on top and can drip when you retract. No big issue - nothing a paper towel won't solve.
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2019 Airstream Classic 30RBT, 2021 Ford F350 King Ranch 4X4 w/6.7L Diesel, Hensley, ACI #1313
travelwiththeslowskys.com
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11-04-2006, 02:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Leaks?
No leaks with mine. They have a good quality rubber seal which is nice and tight on my rig. Some rain can collect on top but most is shed off along with leaf debris and such, by the built in awning.
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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11-04-2006, 02:56 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 30' Flying Cloud
Newtown
, Connecticut
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 90
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We have a 2003 Safari 28SO. We have had no problems with it at all. We love it The hitch WT. is 1250 lbs. I had to go to a class five receiver. We use a Reese Dual-Cam. And we have no leaks.
Eric 28
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11-04-2006, 05:12 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
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1250?
I wonder what change occured to drop the tongue weight from 1250# for the 2003 28SO to 1010# for the 2004 SO? My 2005 28SO has a 1010# tongue weight.
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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11-05-2006, 07:04 AM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
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No leaks either. You do have to be aware that in a wind blown driving rain, it is possible to get a small amount of water that could pool on top of the slide under the awning. In those cases I carry a long handled squeege which will pull any off the top.
That water will show its presence as you retract the slide unit into the trailer. It's not a lot but it will catch you by surprise.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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11-05-2006, 08:48 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 30' Flying Cloud
Newtown
, Connecticut
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 90
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Slowolf,
I have wonder the same thing. AS must have found a lighter material in the manufacturing process. Our 28SO has an UVW of 6760lbs., with an1276lbs. for an CCC, With GVWR of 9100lbs.
Our CCC wt does not include fresh water or LP Gas.
We are about 240lbs. difference in our wt.
Very interesting?
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11-05-2006, 08:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Eric, Is the 1250 your UV or GV tongue weight?
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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11-05-2006, 09:20 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 30' Flying Cloud
Newtown
, Connecticut
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 90
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Slowolf,
It's with out options or variable wt.
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