Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Airstream Forums > Airstream Community Forums > Our Community > Off Topic Forum
Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-17-2011, 06:52 PM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
Intrepid's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
Plymouth Meeting , Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 42
What!? No Airstreams?

This weekend I had my first chance to look at and walk thru a few hundred trailers at the Hershey RV Show (PA). First off, interest in RVs is tremendous. The number of visitors astounded me. The Hershey facility is huge and it was packed not only with the trailers hitch-to-back-bumper, but the vast parking lot was jammed with thousands of cars. I’m only interested in the towing trailers. I had hoped to see a couple particular makes and models but as it turned out only the Evergreen on my list was represented. The Element was very nice and looked very watertight, but a little too small. Jayco did have one model that was nice for a box type with a very well thought out floor plan. Another manufacturer not there was Bigfoot. Its four season capability is of interest to me. After spending an entire day up and down rows of trailer, you realize there are simply too many to absorb in one shot. Trailer sensory overload.

I had never been in the big motor homes so I spotted one that looked like a nice BIG example. As soon as I went up the steps I smiled and would have laughed out loud had a salesman not been writing up an order at the table. I can best describe the obscene inside with an analogy. In the early days of computers, memory was expensive and scarce so programmers wrote tight, function only code. Then memory got cheap and programs grew to millions of lines of code, referred to as ‘Code Bloat”. That’s what the motor home was. I was amused and at the same time put off by the excess of this leviathan’s interior.

A word about floor plans. Wow can they vary. Most are decent, a few I though really bad. One RV had the two doors, one into the living/kitchen area the other opened directly to the toilet. I thought that bizarre. One unit had the vertical wedge front. The exterior was a nice earth color and it was attracting a lot of outside attention. Inside was a disaster. It had the bed at an angle at the wedge; inefficiently taking was too much front floor space, a table and kitchen also placed without thought. Horrible. The kitchen at the wedge would have been perfect. What were they thinking? Slide outs all over the place..hate’em.

And finally AIRSTREAM. I was hoping to see an Airstream but not a single distributor was there nor any from the factory. Not even a little Bambi. Leaving the show, I was in a location that I could see over the entire massive visitors’ parking lot. Box trailers and motor homes along with the cars. You know what, not a single Airstream there either. Wouldn't you find Airstream’s total absence curious as well? I was very disappointed.
Intrepid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 07:31 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
Images: 5
You know what? Auto shows are the same way. There are "A" shows, "B" shows and so forth. Bentley, Rolls, Masaratti, Ferarri, only show up at the "A" shows. GM, Ford, Dodge, Toyota, Nissan, etc show up for all of them, cause they are "every man's" cars. A manufacturer decides what resources are available and picks and chooses. Right or wrong, I'd bet that AS has a list of "As", Bs" and "Cs". I know you said it was a big show, but Hershey is probably a "B". Is a casual show attender who is there to"kick" tires an AS buyer, or are the true buyers "under the radar" for that show?

I know my comments will evoke spirited conversation, but that is the way the auto market behaves, and I'd bet for a "boutique" manufacturer like AS, the real buyers weren't there....at least in the numbers to justify the expense of attending. Right, wrong, or indifferent...that's the way marketing people think. Louisville is a premier "A" show...not sure about others.
dznf0g is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 07:49 PM   #3
"Cloudsplitter"

 
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas , Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
Images: 1
It may be that JC feels they just don't need need to be there mixing with the riff-raff.... isolation syndrome

It is kind of unusual that Colonial wasn't represented, especially considering the great inventory they have available.

Bob
__________________
I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
ROBERT CROSS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 08:29 PM   #4
Colonial Airstream NJ
Airstream Dealer
 
Colonial Airstream's Avatar
 
1961 16' Bambi
1997 19' "B" Van Airstream 190
Millstone Township , New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 578
Images: 79
Bob,

The Hershey PA RV show is brought to you by the PA RV and Camping association to benefit PA RV dealers. A NJ dealer is not invited to participate in displaying product there and the PA Airstream dealer is not currently able to attend the show.

We would REALLY like to display product there but we are not allowed.
__________________
Patrick Botticelli - Colonial Airstream 595 State Hwy 33 Millstone Township, NJ 08535 - 1-800-265-9019 www.colonialairstream.com
Colonial Airstream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 08:48 PM   #5
"Cloudsplitter"

 
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas , Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
Images: 1
Didn't know that Patrick....Thank's

It would be a trip for ASWPA...

Bob
__________________
I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
ROBERT CROSS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 09:01 PM   #6
2 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
 
asianmack's Avatar
 
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Chicago , Illinois
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 57
The RV Show in Chicago (Rosemont) is the same way. I was bummed about that too.

It's organized by those manufacturers and dealers. (probably same with your RV show). Airstream is NOT INVITED to showcase product. If they were, everyone would be at the Airstream booth right!?
asianmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 09:24 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
Silverwanabe's Avatar
 
1967 26' Overlander
Winston Salem , North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 524
Images: 107
One thought,

Who wants to buy an Airstream that has had 100's of people walking thru, opening and closing every door, sitting on the couch and bed and then have them complain it costs too much.

If I was a dealer, I would not take 60-70k units to a show like this, too many lookers no buyers.

That would be a quick way to trash one.

Besides, if I were lucky enough to purchase a new AS, I do not want any one playing inside it. No drinks, no dirty feet ect.

Just my opinion.
__________________
Greg
Winston Salem, NC
WBCCI 5218,
Corresponding Secretary Piedmont NC Unit 161,
1967 Overlander International.
1979 Avion 30ft rear bath
TV's 88 Chevy Suburban 454, 3:42, TH400
95 Cadillac FW Brougham, LT1,3:42, 7k tow pk.
Silverwanabe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 09:37 PM   #8
LFM
3 Rivet Member
 
LFM's Avatar
 
2007 19' Safari SE
Laurel , Montana
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 145
Images: 1
The sizzle and steak syndrome

I have seen an airstream positioned amongst many other SOB,s at some shows. If a person can't separate the steak from the sizzle, they may not be able to see the difference from an Airstream at 19 feet costing the same as an SOB of 30 plus feet, with a basement and slideout. Some of us know the difference. Others will buy the fireplace, and the replace.

Greg
LFM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 09:50 PM   #9
Rivet Master
 
ROBERTSUNRUS's Avatar

 
2005 25' Safari
Salem , Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
Images: 18
Blog Entries: 55
Hi, out near where I live, they have huge RV shows at the Pomona Fair Grounds, several times a year. Once a year it is attended by almost all brands. We have two main RV sellers who sell several brands each. Mike Thompson and Mc Mahan. Mc Mahan has several RV shows each year and a few of them are at the Fair Grounds. Mc Mahan only brings the brands that they sell. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't see the fine print stating that the show is sponsored by Mc Mahan.
__________________
Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
ROBERTSUNRUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 09:52 PM   #10
Rivet Master
 
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga , Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,244
If I remember correctly Bigfoot trailer went bankrupt. Don't know if anyone bought up the remains?
Al
__________________
Al and Jean

TAC ON-3
BigAl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 10:31 PM   #11
Rivet Master
 
Soyboy's Avatar
 
1999 28' Excella
Frederick , Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 739
Images: 50
I think most folks going to these shows are SOB oriented and would only look at an Airstream for the novelty of it. Someone who wants multiple slide outs, lots of storage / headroom etc. etc. isn't going to want nor likely pay for an Airstream. I don't blame the PA dealer (AS of Western PA I assume) for not dragging any trailers to Hershey. Personally I don't see the attraction of RV shows anyway (too many people for me), but I live in an area with many RV dealers and I can stroll the lots at my leisure without the Hoi Poli , although since I purchased an AS it's just not the same! Plus look at what the OP said, he couldn't even see most of the trailers he wanted to look at.

I thought his comments about motor homes were funny. The bigger the rig the less is sleeps. Prevost: cocktails for 6, dinner for 4, sleeps 2.

Like the other poster said, I think Bigfoot when bankrupt a couple of years ago. To me the only other SOB that comes close to a BF is an Artic Fox (Sunline did too, but they also bit the dust).
__________________
1999 28' Safari
2012 F150 Platinum Max Tow 7650 GVWR 3.73 Elec. Locking Diff.(Prev 2003 Dmax).
Honda EU2000i, Equalizer Hitch
AM Solar Panels 150W - 2 Trojan T 105 6V Batteries

KC3MAP

On internet forums, please research and separate the wheat from the chaff (including mine!)
Soyboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 01:17 AM   #12
Rivet Master
 
richinny's Avatar
 
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY , / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
i was at Hershey too. that's quite a big show. Colonial did have a booth inside so at least there was some Airstream presence.

if you want an Airstream only show, you can drive over to Colonial for your own private viewing :-) their inventory is extensive.
__________________
Ricky
2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
richinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 08:03 AM   #13
3 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Indian Harbor Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 182
No Airstreamers in the parking lot??? They were all out camping and having fun, sitting by their campfires and sharing a beer or glass of wine...or two or three.....
kidsgone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 09:43 AM   #14
2 Rivet Member
 
Intrepid's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
Plymouth Meeting , Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 42
Insightful Posts

Thanks for all the comments and info…
dznf0g: A and B shows, never thought about that.
NeatAirstream: PA only, NJ not invited, didn't realize that.
Robert Cross: Mix with the riff-raff? I hope that's not true.
Kidsgone: Airstreamers out having fun, yeah that makes sense!
Richinny: Visit Colonial, yes indeed. On my To-Do list now. (I have yet to set foot in an Airstream).
BigAL: I've communicated with Bigfoot; they appear to be back in business at Bigfoot RV - Truck Campers & Travel Trailers - Recreational Vehicle Manufacturer.
LFM: One of the motor homes did actually had a fireplace of some sort. Barf.
Asiamack: I don't doubt that if an Airstream were there, that's where the crowd would be.
Airstream is indeed an infection one never gets rid of, it can only be mitigated by owning one!
Intrepid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 10:04 AM   #15
Rivet Master
 
cameront120's Avatar
 
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver , British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,421
Images: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
If I remember correctly Bigfoot trailer went bankrupt. Don't know if anyone bought up the remains?
Al
They've been back up and running since January of last year.
__________________
Cameron & the Labradors, Kai & Samm
North Vancouver, BC
Live! Life's a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death! - Mame Dennis
cameront120 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 06:37 PM   #16
Rivet Master
 
Fly at Night's Avatar
 
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley , British Columbia
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,966
Images: 10
Maybe they think the Airstreams will catch a social disease from the SOBs.
__________________
easily distracted by shiny objects
Fly at Night is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 07:34 PM   #17
4 Rivet Member
 
tkowalyk's Avatar
 
2013 27' FB Classic
Clermont , Florida
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 431
Images: 11
I bought my 2006 25 Safari new at an RV show in Reading. Show Special at $37,000 -- quite a discount from the retail and we brought her home that following Monday. No worries about the few folks who walked through her earlier in the day. 5 years later she is doing fine, with a new Maxim Skylight and a new porcelain toilet added in the last couple of years. The Airstream Dealer that we bought her from is no longer an AS dealer. the closest is Colonial RV in NJ.
__________________
Tom & Lori

2013 27 FB Classic Limited
2019 Ford F250 King Ranch 6.7L Diesel
WBCCI 03288 TAC PA-17
tkowalyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 08:47 PM   #18
2 Rivet Member
 
Tin Trekkers's Avatar
 
2007 23' Safari SE
Matawan , New Jersey
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 46
Kick off your shoes...

RV shows should adopt the same etiquette used at boat shows. Visitors are not permitted to bring food/drinks on board and you leave your shoes on the dock! Padding around the decks in your socks cuts down on the wear & tear, so to speak.
However, boat shows also seem to have a similar A, B, C hierarchy. If you want to see a Nordhavn - you have to go to the huge Annapolis, MD show.
Anyway, we're glad we decided not to buy a boat. We'll get a heck-of-a-lot more use out of our Airstream.
__________________
Claude & Marianne

2007 23' Safari SE Lounge (IdaJune)
'05 Toyota 4Runner LE 4.7 V8 4WD w/ tow package
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
Tin Trekkers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 11:21 PM   #19
Rivet Master
 
Ag&Au's Avatar
 
Port Orchard , Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAl View Post
If I remember correctly Bigfoot trailer went bankrupt. Don't know if anyone bought up the remains?
Al
Check this:

Bigfoot RV - Truck Campers & Travel Trailers - Recreational Vehicle Manufacturer

Ken
Ag&Au is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 11:24 PM   #20
Rivet Master
 
Ag&Au's Avatar
 
Port Orchard , Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
Images: 1
Am I the only one that thinks that this is a strange time of year for a RV show?

Spring makes a lot more sense to me.

Ken
Ag&Au is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Where have all the Airstreams Gone? joe hall On The Road... 79 12-11-2011 06:10 PM
OMAR (Owner of Multiple Airstreams) wasagachris 1960 - 1964 Overlander 54 07-24-2011 05:50 PM
What are the TOP Airstreams made? Fun Thread. THEPILL Fun & Games 23 01-03-2011 02:56 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.