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09-19-2003, 02:55 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 25' International CCD
Stone Mountain
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Running the fridge while towing?
I plan to head out this weekend for my first Airstream camping adventure.
Is it okay to start the fridge on propane an use it to keep the groceries cold until I arrive at my campground, or is this a problem?
If it is a problem, please tell me why. Any info would be helpful.
Thanks, Andy
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09-19-2003, 03:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Driving with Fridge lit
This is from the book "By George".
DON"T DO IT....Don't drive into
a gas station with your water heater lit - or your fridge lit. Really, you shouldn't travel with the water heater on....and we do drive into gas stations with the fridge lit. But don't say I said so, By George! It is NOT safe.
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09-19-2003, 03:54 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 25' International CCD
Stone Mountain
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Thanks!
I never thought about the gas station angle. I was only concerned with possibly harming my new baby.
Is this a big problem? I wonder.
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09-19-2003, 03:54 PM
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Little Radio
1966 28' Ambassador
Chicago
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Dumb Question!
Boy, I'm green. I guess I was too young, or didn't care enough to ask my father how we kept our fridge contents cold during our 17-hour stints to Myrtle Beach (from Detroit).
If running your fridge on LP is dangerous, how do you guys do it?? Do you stuff it with ice? Or do you freeze all your stuff at home the night before? (Then the milk and other stuff thaws en route).
Great question! This'll come in handy when I finally buy my first AS...
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09-19-2003, 04:05 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 25' International CCD
Stone Mountain
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Thanks!
I never thought about the gas station angle. I was only concerned with possibly harming my new baby.
Is this a big problem? I wonder.
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09-19-2003, 04:27 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Never thought about the gas station angle myself. I bet this is the reason they make the ac/dc/lp fridges, so that you can run them on dc when traveling.
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1976 Soveriegn 31'
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09-19-2003, 04:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Classic
Oro Valley
, Arizona
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I guess it is just luck, we have never had a problem, but we run our refrigerator on propane when on the road (except in gas stations) always.
I would like to know how you keep food cool if you don't. Here in the sunshine our RVs --especially our Airstream--get really hot inside.
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2002 Classic 25'
2003 Expedition EB 5.4L, AWD, AdvanceTrac Class IV hitch pkg. Reese dual cam/Prodigy
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09-19-2003, 04:32 PM
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Little Radio
1966 28' Ambassador
Chicago
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another question
Those who run their fridge on LP...
do you stop a block from the gas station and turn off the pilot? Then get back in and fill up?
And then turn it back on once you're a safe distance away?
Hmmm....
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09-19-2003, 04:37 PM
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I travel with my refer running on LPG because I feel there is less chance of blowing myself up then getting food poisoning from warm food/milk. However, I am very aware that the propane is on and I turn it off before entering a gas station. There are also some tunnels that require you to turn off the gas before entering.
Running the frig while travelling is somewhat like religion... there are always differing opinions. What ever you do- THINK and be safe.
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'01 Limited
'01 Safari
On The Road, USA
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09-19-2003, 04:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Classic
Oro Valley
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Yes, at some point before the gas fill-up, we stop and turn off the frig. We do not travel with the hot water heater on LP ever.
It is a little inconvenient to stop before getting to a station but I do believe gas fumes are volatile.
We are afraid of food poisoning so we do run the LP refrigerator; no problems in the last 5 rvs we've owned.
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09-19-2003, 05:06 PM
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Rivet Master
Massachusetts
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Does anyone know whether or not it is legal to run the propane while traveling in any of the new tunnels in Boston (from the Big Dig)?
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09-19-2003, 05:44 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
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We beat this subject to death a few months ago. You will find those who say absolutely not and others like me who say its ok, with certain safety considerations. Rather that duplicate this all over again, here is the link to our discussion. You will note a few of us got our dander raised on this issue. The bottom line is you have to make the choice that gives you comfort.
Read on.
http://www.airforums.com/forum...hile+traveling
Regards,
Jack
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STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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09-19-2003, 06:56 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 25' International CCD
Stone Mountain
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Well, this has certainly been an interesting discussion. I think that the answer is that one should not operate lp devices near fuel sources, however, it does seem that it is common to operate these devices while on the road.
It is good to see how useful these forums can be.
Thanks, Andy
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09-19-2003, 06:58 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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I have a Dometic RM3807 in my 1995 Excella 1000. The manual included in my Airstream Book in section H-37 states:
"LPG Gas Delay Mode: When the vehicle engine is turned off The AES system initiates a delay cycle which prevents the refrigerator from operating on LP gas for 25 minutes. The purpose of the delay cycle is to avoid having a gas flame present during a refueling stop at a gas station.
Warning: In travel trailer aplication it is necessary for your dealer/hitch installer to wire the tow vehicleand trailer to obtain this feature. In late 1993 model trailers, Airstream has run a wire from the refrigerator to the hitch for this feature. A Wiring diagram is included at the end of this section.
If the vehicle engine is restarted during this delay period, the LP operation will not start until the delay period is over. This means that each time the vehicle engine is stopped, the complete 25 minute delay cycle takes place.
If 120 volt AC becomes available during this delay cycle, the AES system will start operating in the 120 volt AC mode immediately.
If the RV is stopped somewhere other than a gas station you may wish to cancel the delay cycle. To do this, set the main system swithc C to OFF for several seconds, then back to ON, and the system will start operating in the LP mode."
I know this system works. When I first got my trailer, I thought that something was wrong with the refrigerator because every time I stopped the refrigerator was off. Then I read the manual.
In very hot weather, I pull away from the fuel pumps, leave the engine on, go into the trailer, and cycle the refrigerator back on.
But remember you must have an Dometic Automatic Electronic System, AES, Refrigerator to have this safety feature.
My tow rig is diesel but most fuel pumps have both diesel and gas available adjacent to one another.
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09-20-2003, 12:56 AM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally posted by jcanavera
We beat this subject to death a few months ago. You will find those who say absolutely not and others like me who say its ok, with certain safety considerations. Rather that duplicate this all over again, here is the link to our discussion. You will note a few of us got our dander raised on this issue. The bottom line is you have to make the choice that gives you comfort.
Read on.
http://www.airforums.com/forum...hile+traveling
Regards,
Jack
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Oh yeah,
The last hurrah from Femuse!! I feel like such an old man around here now. I think it has been almost a year now since I registered. Looking forward to another year! I will be sure to ring my own bell when the time comes. (ala Pahaska)
I think I did ruffle your feathers a bit there Jack. Don't worry too much though, most of the time the old pilot gets blown out so if we ever cross paths you should be safe and sound.
Peace Brother!
Chas
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09-20-2003, 01:15 AM
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Moderator
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
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What ever happened to Femuse?
Just so I'm not completely hijacking the thread, I'll add that so far our trips have been close enough to home that we start out with food in a cooler with ice, just like a regular camping trip, and switch it over in the evening after setting up camp and letting the fridge cool down. Since ours runs only on LPG, so running on DC is not an option, I guess we might have to be brave and try travelling with it on when we take a longer trip someday. The previous owners used it that way all the way to Alaska and back, and many other places, for the 7 years they owned it with no problem.
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