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Old 08-18-2014, 06:08 AM   #15
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Idroba - We are all keeping you in our thoughts.

I had the conversation with my husband this past spring about using the Airstream as an emergency shelter if needed and I don't think it really sank in. Being in the midwest, we are more prone to tornados, but it is nice knowing that we can prepare the Airstream for any other emergency situation.

I'll be sure to look for the previous Bug Out thread.
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Old 08-18-2014, 06:21 AM   #16
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The thing that struck us was that we could be traveling and find ourselves in a natural disaster, where we had to leave the Interstate to shelter in the event of a flood or tornado......or, find ourselves in an earthquake like we did several years ago in Virginia.

No warnings for those, and the thing same could happen at home.

Thus, the Bug Out Bag thread.....a bag that carried the essentials for at least several days of life for us and the dog. Grab and go to a shelter, drive away with it, or hopefully retrieve it in the event of an earthquake,

We don't get up each day with disaster on our radar, but it happens to people every day.

You can't prepare for all things, but there is some sense of security in a level of preparedness, that you have done what you could.


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Old 08-18-2014, 01:57 PM   #17
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Update on the fire:

I am allowed into my home, but my two guys and fire truck are here. I am letting them do the worry and watching. There are over 650 on the fire total. When it gets nasty, I leave for the AS, up at a FS campground 25 miles away. I am watching flames and smoke on the forest face on the other side of the river, probably 1000 ft from me. Very light winds, ideal for a slow burn with no flame wall to endanger us. But still, seeing flames in the trees is a bit scary. Well, more than a bit. They may set some backfire from choppers anytime now. I will see how it is, I might want to leave then.

Unless something unexpected happens with the winds, I look to be safe, that is my property. The Airstream and Argosy are safe, and I can leave very rapidly, as needed. I only came back today to see what was happening.

I am glad this thread has helped people to think about a "bug out" kit and vehicle like the AS to give them a safe haven (other than tornado's and hurricanes). I have learned too, don't procrastinate, leave before you think you should, something I did not do.
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Old 08-18-2014, 02:14 PM   #18
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Full timing creates it's own problems. It's not about loading your stuff, it's about being ready to drive down the road.

I guess I've accidentally gotten fairly good at being semi-ready. Anything moveable on the dinette, on the floor, hassocks under the table. Broom stick behind the EB table legs to keep everything under the dinette & benches stationary. Teapot, spices, spoon caddy all dump into sink. All my shower supplies are in a plastic carryall. They're put on the floor of the shower nestled over the drain. Bathroom. In a hurry, everything goes on the floor. Make sure the medicine cabinet is closed and the shower door is locked. Laundry cart, flat on it's back on the rug.

A/C off, water heater off, water pump off, lights out. TV's are always locked in place anyway but check. Antenna down, fans off & lids closed. Water, sewer, electric cords stowed, door locked, steps folded.

.......................................And then there's hitching up to the Hensley.

It either takes one flawless backup and thump, or like this morning it takes 17 tries to get it right. If there was an alert for a possible evacuation, that sucka would be done first. One thing I have learned is that after several fails, it's well worth it to drive away for two to three minutes, completely readjust the trailer height and hitch angle with the torsion adjustment, pour a bucket of cold water on myself, and try again.
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Old 08-18-2014, 02:31 PM   #19
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I learned about "bugout" volunteering with the Red Cross after Katrena. While distributing food, we came across a REALLY nice Rolls Royce completely trashed by the flood. Could you imagine making that decision to leave it! I guess that's what insurance is for.

I'm not much for "prepping", but I guess I should be. I'm in Ohio. Tornado's and bad winter storms are our biggest threats. Not much s far as "bug out" ability.

My greatest concerns are either electrical grid failure, financial failure, H2O failure, pandemic, or nuclear terrorism. Just little stuff like that.

I can make the Canadian border in under two hours and make a serious run for the wilderness. The question is how do you haul 300 gallons of gas and 100 days of MREs?
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Old 08-18-2014, 02:45 PM   #20
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I'm not much for "prepping", but I guess I should be. I'm in Ohio. Tornado's and bad winter storms are our biggest threats. Not much s far as "bug out" ability.
I actually have two kits: a bug-out kit as we've been discussing, for evacuation-worthy hurricanes, and a "hunker-down" kit for milder storms that aren't bad enough to evacuate for, but that will still cause power outages and other interruptions in essential services. Sounds like a hunker-down kit is right up your alley.

I don't consider myself a "prepper." I'm not expecting the end of the World as we know it (TEOTWAWKI™) or the Zombie Apocalypse. Being prepared for a week-long power outage is nowhere near the same as so-called prepping. Besides, as a diabetic who takes insulin, preparing for the Zombie Apocalypse is pointless; I'm more likely to end up one of the zombies than one of the survivors.
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Old 08-18-2014, 02:50 PM   #21
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... Besides, as a diabetic who takes insulin, preparing for the Zombie Apocalypse is pointless; I'm more likely to end up one of the zombies than one of the survivors.

So basically, if we are at a rally together when the zombies come, I should just go ahead and double tap you to be safe?
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Paula, as always, is priceless.


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Old 08-18-2014, 02:56 PM   #23
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So basically, if we are at a rally together when the zombies come, I should just go ahead and double tap you to be safe?
No. That would be a waste of resources. Throw me to the zombies so you can make your escape, and THEN a double-tap to the head to put me out of my misery.
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Old 08-18-2014, 04:50 PM   #24
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Ok, I'm a bit nutty. I setup my other adventure mobile just for the purpose of supporting myself and my wife over land and road should we need to get out of town in a hurry.

To that effect, I have a carrier that holds 4 5 gallon NATO fuel cans. And swapped out the 20 gallon tank with a 32 gallon Tahoe tank. Even with the large tires, the inline 6 gets good milage and I est I should be able to get 800 miles away before needing to refuel.

I just wish I could tow my Airstream with it.

Also, another excuse to post pictures of my other hobby.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:58 PM   #25
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Final update on the wildfire. Although the road my home is located on is closed to all but residents, the fire seems to have burned through most of the fuels it has and has been stopped by the river. Due to the vigilance of our fire crews and a little luck with the weather, no structures were lost. My home is safe but may smell of smoke for a while. They said that they have seldom or never seen the air quality as bad, one reason I could not stay. Normal is 35 (no idea of units of what) and we had spikes of nearly 1000.

650 people were on the fire, it was 20% contained as of yesterday. It is still burning but only back country now, little danger to developed areas. They are not really fighting the fire, mostly seeing it contained within a designated area. Too dangerous to fight it directly.

I returned the Argosy to it's space in the carport, thanked the firefighters once again, and left to pick up the Airstream for a trip to Glacier Park. I am at a Forest Service campground in Montana tonight. No smoke! Yea!

The Airstream and Argosy served me and my neighbors well. A couple stayed with me 2 nights in the Airstream, and when I brought the Argosy up, I used it and let them have the AS.

So, it will look a bit different, but all is well and safe at my home. Thanks for your well wishes and thoughts. It has been quite a 10 days.
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Wow! Thanks for the update and some good news. I've always loved the smell of campfires but I can't imagine the intensity you're talking about. Just glad you're ok and didn't lose any property either.
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Glad it all came out so well for you, and that you had resources aplenty to share with others.

Good luck to you, and keep us posted.


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I've always loved the smell of campfires but I can't imagine the intensity you're talking about.
I can imagine it, and I hope imagining is as close as I ever come to it! One summer while I was in high school, I had occasion to fight a grass fire in southwest Oklahoma, next door to where I was working. The fire was started by the neighbor's dog getting his leash wrapped around the legs of a lit barbecue grill, tipping over the grill and scattering hot charcoal on dry grass. I had no choice but to help fight the fire until the volunteer fire department showed up, unless I wanted to drive through the fire to get out. I paid good money for that piece-of-crap car, and I wasn't about to let the fire take it.

The fire wasn't very big, maybe an acre at worst, but it was still over three hours of beating at the grass with wet burlaps bags in each hand and stomping on embers to grind them into the dirt, while the volunteer fire department had it easy, not only arriving late to the party but also using a pumper truck on the other side of the fire from where we were all dancing a spastic flamenco on embers to literally stomp out the fire. After just three hours the fire was out, but I ended up having to suck oxygen from a bottle in the back of an ambulance due to smoke inhalation, and my clothing was completely unsalvageable. Even my hair smelled of smoke for a week, no matter how often I washed it! (Back in my high school days I still had hair.)

I have the utmost respect for people who willingly fight wildfires as a way of life. After my one brief experience, I know that I could never do that job!
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