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Old 08-31-2008, 07:37 AM   #15
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TK - good to go to the Forums for ideas (she asked me what I liked about our twins last month).

Ma & Pa should make the choice best for them as a first priority. The side benefit of our twins is going with buddies on fishing trips to Ontario... Smith River in Montana... In that case I just don't want to repeat that 'cute' situation from the movie Planes, Trains & Automobiles with John Candy:
[waking up after sharing the same bed on the motel]
Neal: Del... Why did you kiss my ear?
Del: Why are you holding my hand?
Neal: [frowns] Where's your other hand?
Del: Between two pillows...
Neal: Those aren't pillows!


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Old 08-31-2008, 09:17 AM   #16
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Twin vs Queen

We ordered our 2006 25ft Safari at the Dallas RV show and we found the twins (by measuring) to have more room all around. Sadly, after only two years, I'm searching for the perfect deal on 7-8 inch custom foam that I can afford, to replace the torture racks that are stock with Airstream because my wife is miserable for the first two nights out sleeping as the beds have broken down quickly. I'm finding I am twisting and tossing more to maintain comfort too. The odd shape in the corner doesn't bother sleep in our case, no cold wall, just make certain that you buy deep pocket fitted sheets and we bought two pairs of little boy suspenders to kind of cinch them tight. Mattress pads, mattress toppers, also help. Aside from that there is wonderful storage both inside and out with the twin rear configeration, we are both bigger than we want to be and working on that but no problems dressing in the space between the beds. We sleep on a king size select comfort at home so we are set up quite differently when away. Don't misunderstand...we love our coach. Once I replace the mattresses it's gonna be wonderful!!

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Old 08-31-2008, 10:29 AM   #17
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Not much to add here as so many great points have been covered. We have the center queen bed now and had twins before. I like them both very much. I don't know which I actually prefer. There are tradeoffs with any configuration.

In the twin bed I had a problem of where to fling and stretch my arms out as the night stand and curvature seemed to dictate range of motion. We took care of the cold walls of cold weather camping by getting heated mattress pads that can run on electric or 12 volt. The easily accessable and ample storage was great and elongating the hallway and having a day use area and spacious dressing room was great as is the wide exterior storage door and compartment. The night stand can be very useful to place a lamp or whatever. If it weren't for the nightstand you could slide the twins together at night and replace that with a fold-down table for day use?

The queen is a real luxury of space to use and to take up walk room permanently. It has the bonus of having a center window for viewing (hopefully out ) and ventilation at your head. The room feels spacious without the extra overhead cabinetry at the end of the twins and over the window and gives you a better place to put a tv monitor. You can hide stuff on either side and visitors wont see it from the front of the coach. Or you can use that space to secure extra or bulky things easily for travel without stopping you from getting to the bed on the road. You can change your orientation for sleeping to sideways or head to foot. You can sleep two adults and two dogs and a cat together, but do you really want to? The pets seem to like a center bed for looking down the hall and out the window.

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Old 08-31-2008, 11:43 AM   #18
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Bottom line.....
If you're still in the "cuddle mode", go queen.
One of the benefits of the twin is that if you go "stream'n" with other then your partner, you can let your guest use one of the twins, and you still get to use your own bed.

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Old 08-31-2008, 01:50 PM   #19
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I have twins. I would rather have a queen, or king. My A/S has a rear bath. I would jump at the chance to get a rear bedroom A/S. ( Privacy)
It stinks looking across the isle at the better half. My feet are at the bottom and my head is at the top currently. The front couch has a seem right where I sleep and I get hung in it. So that doesnt work either for us.
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Old 08-31-2008, 04:18 PM   #20
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We sleep in a King at home so twins fit us to a tee.
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Old 08-31-2008, 05:16 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by CanoeStream View Post
TK - good to go to the Forums for ideas (she asked me what I liked about our twins last month).
And you were terrifically helpful! I appreciate your time and effort answering my PM and being a moderator for the AS forum so newbies like me have a place where we can ask questions of experienced Airstreamers and feel like we won't be made to feel silly for asking them.
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:26 PM   #22
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One final note: If you have rear (or front) twins, and feel like being a little more together, you can always put a piece of 1/2" plywood across the gap, and slide the two twins against each other. A hunk of plywood is currently about $20. It's easier to slide twins together than separate a queen.
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:42 PM   #23
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Got a king 4' memory foam topper and cut it into two pieces. Rounded the bottoms and put twin bed sheets on with those elastic holders for mattress pads. These things are great. Bob and I get a good night's sleep on them; however, Bob would love to have a queen size bed instead of the twins. Imma Chicken (the Pom) and I are pretty happy with our sleeping quarters. MEN!
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:01 PM   #24
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I am a true newbie here. 1 week !
I am gutting my 25'tradewinds and putting in a queen size murphy bed in the middle bedroom [rear bath ]
Some have mentioned the weight problem with the murphy bed configuration but ,other than the 4 boards that make up the side boards and head/end boards, the entire mechanism is only 10 pounds. Heck ,I will need a murphy bed on the port side in order to compensate for the weight of my 160 lb Newfoundland !!
I figure that with the black water tank,the gray water and the fresh water , my dog will almost equal things out !LOL
Also, My 32 inch x32 inch full height shower only weighs in at about 52 pounds and that will be on the starboard side ...all in all a very even swap and this way I can have a wonderful mattress. I have a queen bed at home [king koil ] and I get sleepy just walking passed it !
I am 100 percent in favor of a queen sized bed,be it murphy or conventional..
oh yeah , the murphy mechanism I found is only $299.00 plus what ever mattress you might pick

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