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Old 06-28-2004, 07:08 AM   #1
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Bedroom mods - twin beds to queen size bed.

Hi all,

I have a trailer with twin beds and rear bath. Although the twins are fine, I am considering modifying it to give me a queen size bed, crossways in the same space.

The down side is the route to the bath room - would be around the foot of the bed instead of between the twins. I think it can be done using the existing space, though it would be a bit tight.

Questions I have are have any of you done this change? If you have, how did it work out and did you have any major problems (should be relatively easily done)? What size did the bed end up being - full size 60" wide queen? Would you consider buying a trailer that has had this modification done, for your personal use?

Thanks for any comments. Seems to me to be doable and a lot cheaper than selling existing trailer and buying another with the bigger bed.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:21 AM   #2
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Many of the Airstreams were availaable with a queen size bed instead of two singles.The bed goes on one side with a dresser over the opposite wheels.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:29 AM   #3
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You can always make a pull-out double bed so that you won’t block the bathroom’s path except for when you are sleeping on the bed.

I have accomplished what you debating, except for a different reason. My Overlander came with the center double bed & wardrobe combination, and we wanted center twins. Although the double bed pulls out to its maximum size, I noticed that un-pulled-out, it had the same dimensions as a typical, Airstream twin bed. So I basically removed the wardrobe, and built a new twin bed patterned after the double bed. In fact, if I really needed a lot of sleeping space, I could add slides to the new twin, and pull out both beds for a roughly 79”X96” sleeping area

But we’re stopping at two children

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Queen or double?

Actually, the layout that is referenced is made of a double size bed and not a queen.

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Old 06-28-2004, 08:05 AM   #5
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I would vote for the pull out. We have a side mounted rear queen in the 345. while there is an "aisle" between the foot of the bed and the sidewall it's only about 12" wide.
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Old 06-28-2004, 08:36 AM   #6
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This is the one reason I did not purchase many trailers I really liked.
'Single Beds'
I wonder has anyone pulled them out and installed a 'Murphy Bed' ?
I would think this would be the way to go if it worked.
I find the Gaucho pull out to be a pain, and you can leave a Murphy bed made up.
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Old 06-28-2004, 09:12 AM   #7
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Bed Size

Originally Posted by swebster@myrvadvanta
I would vote for the pull out. We have a side mounted rear queen in the 345. while there is an "aisle" between the foot of the bed and the sidewall it's only about 12" wide.
Steven exaggerates the "walk area". At the floor, it's more (or less) like 9".

Definitely not a "leave down" option with a rear bath.

The dimensions for the sideways "Queen" island bed in the 345-- 60" Wide X 76" Long. The Couch Fold Out is 44" Wide X 74" Long, and the dinette bed is 36" Wide X 69" Long.

Compare these measurements to "industry standards" below:

Queen -- 60" X 80" (Queen sheets (both flat and fitted) work OK in the MH "Island Queen", just fold in the overage length at the bottom.)

Full -- 54" X 75" (Full sized fitted sheets work pretty well on the couch fold out. The "fitted" pocket holds onto the corners on the aisle side, and the overage is tucked into the wall side of the bed.)

Twin -- 38" X 75".

I like the idea mentioned by Janet's Husband - Murphy Bed.

It's a pain in the Keester to convert a couch from day use to night use twice a day. The Murphy Bed would have some mounting issues (you might have to find a frame member to secure the bottom mount to - and not put much pressure on the top latch) but it would probably be doable.

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