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10-17-2016, 01:43 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1978 28' Ambassador
Elk River
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 18
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What is this??
Hi all,
We have owned our 1978 28' Ambassador for 3 months now, and we have most of it figured out, thanks to all of you!
HOWEVER, there is a square drop down in the belly pan underneath the front living room. I don't want to make my poor, PATIENT hubby open this up to see what is in it, so I'm hoping some of you might know.
It is not the fresh water tank, or grey/black tanks.
It has no openings. There is nothing above it in the camper, but the living room floor. It is not mentioned in the owner's manual, and we don't have a repair manual.
Approximate measurements are 17" x 34" x 3-3/4".
Help!
Terry
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10-17-2016, 01:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Welcome to the forum! There may be an owner's manual available online. I will R&D when I get back home later. Are all four vertical faces the same, showing only aluminum (galv. steel?), with no fasteners other than rivets and the dark bolts holding the box up?
Any chance there was a propane floor heater added at some point, which was later removed when the floor was re-done? Any way of contacting previous owners?
Peter
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10-17-2016, 02:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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I believe this spec. sheet covers your 1978 28' Ambassador. Check at the bottom of the middle column, where your model is mentioned under the space heater text. Do you have a separate space heater near an exterior wall? (which would probably not be the one I guessed about under the floor).
https://www.airstream.com/wp-content...89bb08ceff.pdf
If you want to look for other manuals, go to the AS company site:
https://www.airstream.com/
and click on Service, then either Document Archive or Manuals in the drop down menu.
I did not look very hard, so there may be a more detailed manual available.
Good luck!
Peter
PS -- Any chance a previous owner installed a floor safe there? Stranger things have happened IMO!
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10-17-2016, 03:29 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Is it accessible from above? Or just from underneath? If above it might be a safe as was mentioned, or from below a smuggling hole.
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10-17-2016, 03:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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I wondered about smuggling too but thought it was too visible. Curious to hear her answer about the other three vertical faces being just the same, or not?
PS -- Bingo! ??? Right inside the entry door, was there a removable grate inside the door for scraping one's feet off, and the metal box caught the droppings?
A grate idea!
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10-17-2016, 04:52 PM
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Rivet Master
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 586
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Curious me, I would unscrew 3 sides and see what is inside. At the least.
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10-17-2016, 05:16 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Finally! Someone found DB Coopers stash!!
1990 35' Silver Streak
2004 555 Cummins
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10-17-2016, 06:40 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1988 Argosy 32
Lomita
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 181
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Beer tank ?
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10-17-2016, 06:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tpfleg
I don't want to make my poor, PATIENT hubby open this up to see what is in it, so I'm hoping some of you might know.
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Ah, come on Terry...don't keep us guessing - just grab a screw driver, crawl on under there and unscrew the screws & let us know what you find! There only appears to be 16 of them...I know you can do it, no need to wait on the hubby for this one.
Shari
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10-17-2016, 06:57 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1973 31' Excella 500
Vicksburg
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 164
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Considering that it's attached to the belly pan I'm guessing that someone built a better mouse trap.
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10-18-2016, 08:39 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1978 28' Ambassador
Elk River
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 18
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Oh my gosh!!! You all are hilarious!! What a great laugh with my morning tea!
I, too, thought of a secret stash of cash!
Unfortunately, Dear Hubby put in new flooring, so I WILL have to go at this from underneath.
No, there was no electric heater that I could find.
Peter, thank you for info on how to get more info! I am a librarian and do research for a living, but this one has stymied me!
Alright, I'll let you guys know what I find out!
Terry
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10-18-2016, 08:57 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
modesto
, California
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,097
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Curiouser and curiouser.
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10-18-2016, 09:04 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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Flux Capacitor
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10-18-2016, 09:09 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
Hilltop Lakes
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,767
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I still find it amazing that a flux capacitor comes in so many different shapes. ;-)
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10-18-2016, 09:38 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Cash stash! No, not cash, something else.
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10-18-2016, 09:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 16' Sport
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,596
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumatic
Flux Capacitor
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I believe they were only available on the limited edition stainless steel model.
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10-18-2016, 09:59 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1978 28' Ambassador
Elk River
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 18
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Flux capacitor!! Love it!
Okay, I interrupted my morning reading to go out and take off some screws (thanks, Shari, for the boost of confidence!)
Some of the screw are rusted, and I have put WD-40 on them, hoping they loosen up. However, I was able to get the screws off one of the long sides, and pull the top away from the belly pan about an inch. I inserted my cell phone, and took photos. The bottom of the pan is empty, but there is something hung in there. It looks like it's cast iron and has a white stamp on it.
I'm wondering if it's some sort of plate to anchor the chair that would have been sort of above it in the living room? However, now that I know there MAY have been a safe, and if it IS a safe, you all know where it IS--so I may have to throw all of you into my flux capacitator--or flash you with my MIB issued neuralyzer!
I may have to wait until DH gets home so he can finish my job. Whatever I break, he's going to have to fix, so I'd rather not break it! Ha ha!
Thanks for the great ideas, and the laughs!
Terry
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10-18-2016, 10:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Was there a recliner there maybe? When you husband did the floors, he would have seen the holes for the through-bolts? The enclosure seems much larger than needed for the metal base and some bolts IMO. Can you remove the entire thing and get us some new photos?
Thanks for the continuing mystery!
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10-19-2016, 09:16 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1978 28' Ambassador
Elk River
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 18
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More mystery pics!
Okay, I got 10 of the 16 screws out, but the other six are rusted and/or stripped (Yes, I used WD-40). I was not able to take the cover off, but was able to push up the belly pan and pull down the edge of the mystery box to make a 1" opening where I was able to take a few pics.
DH is home now, and he will take it apart next week. In the meantime, what do you all think?
The 'black box' is probably 12" x 30"?
It looks like some sort of tank to me.
The stamped number appears to be 288 720?
Terry
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10-19-2016, 09:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Pendleton
Currently Looking...
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 840
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Hi from AZ. . . you're killin me. . . Cb
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