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Old 06-06-2009, 09:50 PM   #41
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Well, Susan and I completed our "overkill" today as we purchased a used Hensley Arrow in excellent condition on Craig's List. The only problem is that It came with a 2" drop on the hitch bar and I am not certain that fits our situation. The tow vehicle has a measurement of 18 7/8" to the top of the receiver box. The Airstream measures 18" to the inside top of the coupler ball hitch. I think I need about a 6" drop in the hitch bar, for the two to connect and keep the trailer level. Does anyone have a better idea of how the match-up should work. Would appreciate all input. Will Hensley swap out a hitch bar, even though we did not purchase a new Arrow from them? Ours is in great shape. jc
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Well, Susan and I completed our "overkill" today as we purchased a used Hensley Arrow in excellent condition on Craig's List. The only problem is that It came with a 2" drop on the hitch bar and I am not certain that fits our situation. The tow vehicle has a measurement of 18 7/8" to the top of the receiver box. The Airstream measures 18" to the inside top of the coupler ball hitch. I think I need about a 6" drop in the hitch bar, for the two to connect and keep the trailer level. Does anyone have a better idea of how the match-up should work. Would appreciate all input. Will Hensley swap out a hitch bar, even though we did not purchase a new Arrow from them? Ours is in great shape. jc

The orange company won't swap your bar. You're in between needing a 4" or a 6". I'd recommend the 4" rather than the 6".

They will also offer you a lifetime warranty and then you will be able to swap bars. Considering what I know about their business, and the considerable competitive pressure they are under, that may not be a wise investment.
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:55 PM   #43
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Hensleys are difficult yo hook up unless you have two people. I cannot speak for the ProPride. Same Type of set up? Same type of difficulty.
A Hensley seems over kill for a 22 ft Safari. Lots of people are happy with Equalizer and Reese Hitches.
I hook up my Hensley easliy by myself using a back up camera. There are a couple of "tricks" I've learned through trial and error that make completing the process pretty simple.
I previously had the Reese and I really thought my friends who bought Hensleys were exaggerating about the difference between the two. They were not! The difference is amazing! I do have a big trailer so I agree that for a smaller rig it would not be as important. Although I did run into a friend recently who had purchased a Hensley because he planned on buying a larger trailer. He commented what a difference it made just towing his 25' older, lighter weight Sovereign which he just traded at Out of Doors Mart for a newer larger model.
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Old 12-02-2009, 05:00 PM   #44
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The orange company .... Considering what I know about their business, and the considerable competitive pressure they are under, that may not be a wise investment....

now, now, now lets not get tacky
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Old 12-02-2009, 05:27 PM   #45
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Just my comments on the subject

I've been towing travel tailers of one type or another for almost 40 years with several different types of weight distribution hitches with differnet types of sway control.

For some reason or another, I had trouble from day one with my current trailer ('01 25' Excella with Reese Dual Cam) with sway and "wiggle" that always gave me an uncomfortable towing experience. So, I started researching the options which were the Hensley and the ProPride.

After seeing the improvements and features of the ProPride, I selected it and bought one.

I am totally satisfied, I have no more sway, no "wiggle", and no uncomfortable feeling. It's really an improvement you have to experience.
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Old 12-02-2009, 06:13 PM   #46
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I have seen a good deal of discussion about the Hensley being difficult to hookup. To some extent I agree. I had alittle problem until I purchased a mirrior, from Camping World, that clips on the tail gate of my truck. I look in the rear view mirror and can watch both ends come together. When I get close I adjust the height of the trailer side. Normally it takes less than two minutes to hitch up.
I call the mirror a "marriage saver". When I prepare to hitch up I ask the wife to go inside and check everything for road travel.

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The hitching difficulty was addressed in the ProPride design. The internal hitch box and the hitch bar wedges have a greater angle and the welds are finished.

There are many people on the forum that have had the Arrow and now the 3P and it is the most commented on improvement.

Just as a comparison... when I was the vice president of the company I had a guy that answered hitching and unhitching questions every single day. He spent a couple hours a day doing it.

Now, with close to 1700 hitches on the road, I have had 2 hitching calls in our first 23 months of shipping hitches.
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:42 AM   #47
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Considering what I know about their business, and the considerable competitive pressure they are under, that may not be a wise investment.
Hensley has great customer service. I think they will be in business for many years to come.
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:57 PM   #48
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Hensley has great customer service. I think they will be in business for many years to come.
That has been my experience as well. The ProPride may be equally a good hitch, but I already have a Hensley that I'm very pleased with.
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I have the Hensley. Just my luck that I bought it shortly before ProPride became available.

The Number One reason I would have purchased the PP is because of the adjustable hitch head.

After numerous attempts (on other threads here), after many scale readings, after swapping stingers, I was unable to get the kind of weight transfer I believe necessary.

I would have come much closer with the PP. That trailer is now sold, and while the next one will have the H/A on it, it won't for very long.

And, for the post above about A/S being the best towing trailer, let's face the fact that NO hitched combination is very good. They are all problematical, and a compromise somewhere. It is, IMO, a mistake to think that adding the best hitch somehow punctures the performance balloon. Good design is a given -- I wouldn't have a box if you paid me (okay, a lot) -- and by purchasing the best hitch I am simply eliminating an area of risk. Cheap, as the cause of "loss of control" accidents is usually driver fault, I hope that I am reducing any poor tendencies on my part on a particular day in a particular situation by eliminating, not reducing, trailer sway.

As LEIPPER puts it: a trailer that wanders, versus one that wiggles (paraphrased).

Without anti-sway, I can twitch the tail of that trailer without effort. With one of these hitches, I have to really work hard to even approach that condition.
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:40 PM   #50
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The Number One reason I would have purchased the PP is because of the adjustable hitch head By Rednax

Would someone explain the adjustable hitch head by PP.
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:50 PM   #51
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The Number One reason I would have purchased the PP is because of the adjustable hitch head By Rednax

Would someone explain the adjustable hitch head by PP.
Check out post #s 93-101 and 117-128 on This Thread for an answer to that question
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Old 01-20-2010, 05:00 PM   #52
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I have a Hensley cub , with a 2 inch ball that Ill sell , I need to upgrade to a larger ball , this time leaning toward propride its not even a year old and I cant switch ball size need to go 2 5/16 . I didnt know i could not switch ball when i bought it . Hensley wants me to send it back to them and they will switch it for a cost, plus i pay shipping .not a happy camper.

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Semphi, buy a used Hensley, from the Hensley co. at half price. Then when you upgrade your trailer, you will have the complete package.good luck, Hensley hitch has saved my A/S on the road more than I can count.
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I have a Hensley cub , with a 2 inch ball that Ill sell , I need to upgrade to a larger ball , this time leaning toward propride its not even a year old and I cant switch ball size need to go 2 5/16 . I didnt know i could not switch ball when i bought it . Hensley wants me to send it back to them and they will switch it for a cost, plus i pay shipping .not a happy camper.

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I understand your anger. I can't begin to tell you the number of little games I have witnessed over the years.

ALL ProPride hitches, regardless of rating (600, 800, 1000 and 1400) have interchangeable hitch ball sizes. We have hitches on the road with 1-7/8", 2" and 2-5/16" hitch ball sizes and ANY of them can switch the hitch ball size with ease.
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I have a Hensley cub , with a 2 inch ball that Ill sell , I need to upgrade to a larger ball , this time leaning toward propride its not even a year old and I cant switch ball size need to go 2 5/16 . I didnt know i could not switch ball when i bought it . Hensley wants me to send it back to them and they will switch it for a cost, plus i pay shipping .not a happy camper.

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If it were mine, I'd take it to a local machine/welding shop and have it changed....end of story.
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Am I allowed to comment on something I don't own?
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Am I allowed to comment on something I don't own?
I'm guessing so. It doesn't seem to stop some people. If I thought I knew enough about it to make a helpful post, I would.
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I'm guessing so. It doesn't seem to stop some people. If I thought I knew enough about it to make a helpful post, I would.
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Common sense!...is that even allowed on such a topic?
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Common sense!...is that even allowed on such a topic?

Robert, from reading your posts I've always thought you had plenty of common sense... you shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
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Common sense!...is that even allowed on such a topic?
Allowed, but not required.

Since this thread popped up again, I took the time to read it again.
There is one paradox that keeps showing up in all the hitch and sway threads.
I am guessing 99% of the members of the forum either own or want to own an Airstream. I am also sure that a lot of them had people say to them, "Don't throw away your money on something you don't need, buy a cheap SOB. It will work just as well. I've towed my SOB all over and it works fine for camping."
Obviously they did not follow that advice or they wouldn't be here. Yet, some are willing to tell someone else to not throw their money away on a better hitch to go with the better trailer.
I am thinking that if these people bought a expensive piece of fine art, they would mount it on the wall with a barely adequate rusty nail.


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