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Old 11-20-2013, 03:38 PM   #29
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What the ....? We're obviously no longer in Odessa, TX. Don't know nuttin' about European trailer hookups or even European version of the Touareg, except that the stock hitch weight is 770lbs.

You're on your own here. Roger, out.
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This thread is a joke, right? Tim, you are WAY over thinking this and your thinking is WRONG. The tongue weight, as MOJO said, is 770 lbs. No other european rules apply. The European hitch is COMPLETELY different than the one installed on a North American Touareg. As such, European trailers are built completely differently there to account for the lesser tongue weight. Reducing tongue weight in the manner you are thinking will be DEADLY to you and possibly others around.
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We had a 2007 25FB CCD. With water in the tank, beer in the fridge, propane tanks full, that muther was over 1000lbs on the hitch without weight distribution bars.

Since the axles are at least 65% back from the front, you'll need a lot of weight on and under that dinette in the back. Better get a ProPride hitch. No way you're keeping that in one lane with 4% on the tongue.
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Think a jeep could take it maybe with solid rear axle and you could add stiff shocks even then though I would pass. 2000 lbs would be no problem, 3500 would be my max. If you are just pulling short distance slowly then maybe you would be ok. I would swap it for new ford f150 that's alot of weight. I towed 5000 loaded up trailer with cabinet material, weight was all in back and fishtailed swagged pretty good. VW motor will take it and does better than any v8 american motor, but suspension is holding you back.


QUOTE...snip...... "weight of the trailer 7300lb (3311kg)......Intention is to always keep the Hitch Weight at 308lb (140kg)."

IMHO.....keeping the tongue weight at 308lbs is a pipe dream on a 7300lb 25' Airstream.

Towing with a short WB TV with no sway is not such a good idea.

But I don't know nothing...I'm new here.

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Old 11-27-2013, 08:38 AM   #30
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QUOTE...snip...... "weight of the trailer 7300lb (3311kg)......Intention is to always keep the Hitch Weight at 308lb (140kg)."

IMHO.....keeping the tongue weight at 308lbs is a pipe dream on a 7300lb 25' Airstream.

Towing with a short WB TV with no sway is not such a good idea.

But I don't know nothing...I'm new here.

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I did a towing of a 7300lb 29' Airstream Excella (1991) with Touareg V10 (2008) for 1200 miles (St.Petersburg-Odessa) WITHOUT any WDH and the car behaved brilliantly.

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Old 11-27-2013, 09:02 AM   #31
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Old 11-27-2013, 10:08 AM   #32
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From what I can tell in the photos of Airstreams built to be sold in Europe, and seeing those trailers in person at the factory, the most obvious difference is the length of the tongue.

It is noticeably longer than the US trailer. This seems to be common theme in all the photos I can find of RV trailers for Europe.

Longer tongue means less tongue weight on the hitch, and more on the trailer's axles.

So, not unloading the front axle of the tow vehicle.







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True on all counts, but Timofeevich's trailer isn't a Euro model.

Not using a WD hitch might have worked out because the Touareg's leveling air suspension was masking the fact that the back axle was most probably overloaded by quite a margin.
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Yes it is a US model but I believe the tongue and head was modified to Euro standards. This took a while to come out when we all thought he was in Odessa, TX! Somehow he was able to lower the tongue weight.
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Hitches, Tongue Weight and Tow Vehicles.

The discussion thread trifecta.

Perhaps when one finds himself in a similar predicament, he should simply go full-on American and import a truly proper tow vehicle.





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Hitches, Tongue Weight and Tow Vehicles.

The discussion thread trifecta.

Perhaps when one finds himself in a similar predicament, he should simply go full-on American and import a truly proper tow vehicle.





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'nadda......you import it from C-eh-N-eh-D-eh.

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A loaded 25 FT modern Airstream has a tongue weight of ~1000# without WDH used, and ~1200# with WDH used. You would be over the 770# tongue weight limit of Touareg.

Moreover, Touareg has a payload of ~1100#. Unless the driver weighs less than a 100#, you would be over the Touareg's payload (and probably rear axle rating).

25 FT Airstreams seem to have the heaviest tongue weights.
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'nadda......you import it from C-eh-N-eh-D-eh.

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I did a towing of a 7300lb 29' Airstream Excella (1991) with Touareg V10 (2008) for 1200 miles (St.Petersburg-Odessa) WITHOUT any WDH and the car behaved brilliantly.
No doubt Tim the T-Regs and Airstreams are top of the line when it comes to cat like prowess at highway speeds.

But when you review how the well known towing specialists have set up the T-Regs and big Airstreams you can see that they are are all set up with quality WDH's. Food for thought.
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Perhaps when one finds himself in a similar predicament, he should simply go full-on American and import a truly proper tow vehicle.
At European gas prices, you'd be spending a fortune just to go away for the weekend.

There's a reason pickup trucks aren't selling outside of North America - nobody can afford to drive them.
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Yes it is a US model but I believe the tongue and head was modified to Euro standards. This took a while to come out when we all thought he was in Odessa, TX! Somehow he was able to lower the tongue weight.
Ok. Didn't know that - I thought it was a straight up import.
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Without weight distribution - NO

With weight distribution - yes but you have to be very, very aware of the max payload of the T-Rex.

How do I know this, let's just say in a past life....
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