F350 and equalizer hitch

[xrvr]

So much info, so much misunderstanding, over and over, by the same person or persons who say they are experts.

[slowmover]

Originally Posted by avionstream

So much info, so much misunderstanding, over and over, by the same person or persons who say they are experts.

Come on and show me how to load a flatbed trailer with odd pieces. And the ones that hang off the sides or rear.

Or set up a tanker such that fifth wheel position plus height, kingpin position, etc will split a moving load equally between tractor Drive Axle and trailer Tandem Axle. Right down to splitting those axles. Without upsetting Steer Axle. Will also unload center or rear depending on product. Greatest load but meets legalities. When and to maintain. How to set an alignment. Etc. Experiment, and test.

This stuff ain't rocket science. It's details.

You want "less", follow the herd.

Setting up a travel trailer is little different. Each vehicle separately. Then the lash-up. Get the numbers. They're confirmation months down the road between trips. The load on the tires tells the story.

Or maybe this is about humor and I've misunderstood. Because there's nothing quite so funny looking out on the highway as a one ton hauling a 25'. On the front trailer axle. Bounce, bounce, bounce. If I've seen that once, I've seen it two dozen times the past few years.

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[Moflash]

This poster asked a simple question and here come the trolls again.Slowmover you have zero experience with a 2017 F350 and a Equilizer hitch yet you choose to join in. Your profile shows that you have a 13 year old Dodge and your posts show that you pull your Airstream less than 5000 miles a year.
Same old bs from the same people over and over.........

[xrvr]

I wasn't necessarily referring to you, slow.

[ksteve06]

Man I was trying to find out if anyone thought a f350 pulling a 30ft classic with an equalizer hitch would be too much stress on the airstream. Didn't mean to start a war, but I do see people all over these forums that comment when they don't even have an airstream or a f350. I do appreciate those comments of those that do. Will be picking up the classic tomorrow and see how it goes. I'm going to cat scale tonight for weight of truck only.

[uncle_bob]

Originally Posted by ksteve06

Man I was trying to find out if anyone thought a f350 pulling a 30ft classic with an equalizer hitch would be too much stress on the airstream. Didn't mean to start a war, but I do see people all over these forums that comment when they don't even have an airstream or a f350. I do appreciate those comments of those that do. Will be picking up the classic tomorrow and see how it goes. I'm going to cat scale tonight for weight of truck only.

Hi

There is an ongoing fracas over hitches. It goes back who knows how long. Like any similar debate on any forum, it spills from thread to thread with varying levels of intensity. People get excited and say things. I've gotten excited and said things. Much of what's said when excited likely would be erased an hour later if people had that option ....

Bob

[dkottum]

I've been called a clueless idiot without a life on this forum so many times I take it as a compliment. Same old bs from the same people over and over . . .

[slowmover]

Originally Posted by avionstream

I wasn't necessarily referring to you, slow.

My apology.

And I'm still saddened by your "retirement". Was way out there in "Somewhere, No Where" and saw two Avions this week. One northbound on US183 in NW Oklahoma. A mid 80s 30. And same vintage 34 on IH40 west of OKC. Become pointless now to hit the airhorn and wave, sowing confusion, ha!

[xrvr]

Thanks, we just simply don't have the money to rv anymore. Peace.

[slowmover]

Originally Posted by Moflash

This poster asked a simple question and here come the trolls again.Slowmover you have zero experience with a 2017 F350 and a Equilizer hitch yet you choose to join in. Your profile shows that you have a 13 year old Dodge and your posts show that you pull your Airstream less than 5000 miles a year.
Same old bs from the same people over and over.........

And the difference that would make would be what? I haven't drunk the Ford Blue Koolaid? Or quit using one of the lesser brands of obsolete hitches ten years ago?

Has something changed about leverage? Tire loads?

As to miles, how many countries had you covered by 1980?

How many cars and trucks have you used in towing these?

You want to call, troll, well, where's the Scale tickets you amassed to be ever so helpful to others in requesting help with a (gods save us) new FORD and newish trailer. Then, on to TV tire pressure. Etc.

How much did it take to do what? What's the TV FF/RR differential bias?

What are the stopping distances? How far off are the brake drum temps in a hard stop? How even is the trailer load when you split the trailer axles?

There's just no end to what you could offer.

You annually drive what I do in seven weeks or less.

The ratio of one ton + Airstream = bad lash up is almost one to one out there.

It's all just details, in the end. What did you find?

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[Moflash]

This post is a question asking about a 2017 F350 and using a Equilizer hitch.You don't own and it seems have not even driven one.You also do not own a Equilizer Hitch.
You have only rambled about your experience with driving a semi which has no bearing on this post.Your contribution is a continuous repeat performance of trying to baffle everyone with bs.Please stick to the topics that you can add something of value.

And just to set the record straight Ford F350's haven't had drum brakes for many years........

[sheriff1]

Originally Posted by ksteve06

Man I was trying to find out if anyone thought a f350 pulling a 30ft classic with an equalizer hitch would be too much stress on the airstream. Didn't mean to start a war, but I do see people all over these forums that comment when they don't even have an airstream or a f350. I do appreciate those comments of those that do. Will be picking up the classic tomorrow and see how it goes. I'm going to cat scale tonight for weight of truck only.

I have a 2015 F350, tow a 30' FC (a little less weight) and use an equalizer with 1000 lb bars. Works fine, wouldn't change a thing.

[slowmover]

Originally Posted by Moflash

This post is a question asking about a 2017 F350 and using a Equilizer hitch.You don't own and it seems have not even driven one.You also do not own a Equilizer Hitch.
You have only rambled about your experience with driving a semi which has no bearing on this post.Your contribution is a continuous repeat performance of trying to baffle everyone with bs.Please stick to the topics that you can add something of value.

And just to set the record straight Ford F350's haven't had drum brakes for many years........

I wouldn't buy a Ford in that category. Only GM has independent front suspension.

No Equalizer, granted. The more difficult but better Dual Cam. For the first thirty years. Other than details, both are the same thing.

Your trailer has discs? Nearly all of these AS trailers have drums. Obsolete brakes. The question stands: how well have you equalized the braking force on all four tires of your trailer with (among other details to check about brake performance) the amount of TW you shifted to those axles? How much did changing to a larger better tire than GYM improve this? And how much hitch finagling did it take to simply level the trailer according to Scale tickets? Etcetera. There's a lot of questions.

You know the Equalizer details, are the on that thread? Did I miss an invisible link to the answers to these questions?

You're not interested? Fine. Others are. I get it you don't grok technical details. Leave me out if it, but be glad others do. FWIW, my job is pretty much the same thing, but with even worse consequences for complacency.

First decade of this century 75,000 RVers were injured in what were probably preventable accidents (some seriously, in life changing ways). Over 200 died.

"Luck" is something one makes, in most instances.

You don't want to read my posts, block them.

I should like to be retired and travel extensively. Especially 20k miles annually if I chose. Count your blessings, and enjoy your rig.

OP: plenty of threads to research. Almost every topic has been covered three ways to Sunday the last dozen years. I recommend the CAT Scale threads, and anything by 2Airishuman.

As to the Equalizer brand, you can do better. Two of the most prominent Airstream dealers will not sell them. "Why" is another thread.

And as to brakes: if you already believe the larger pickups have better brakes, they don't. The trailers have bad brakes (drums). That can be corrected.

Good luck

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[pteck]

Hi slowmover. Can you tell me more about the equilizer deficiencies? My 27FB came with an equilizer 4 pt. While it seems to work well for my setup, I've always wondered if the bars are too stiff, for going over things like driveways and transitions. My tow vehicle is a Lexus LX570 that has relatively soft suspension with a lots of suspension articulation. Always wondered if a soft sprung vehicle paired with relatively stiff WD bars is a bad combo.

[RandyNH]

Originally Posted by slowmover

Or maybe this is about humor and I've misunderstood. Because there's nothing quite so funny looking out on the highway as a one ton hauling a 25'.

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He seems to do fine.

[pickerdd]

Originally Posted by ksteve06

Anyone out there with a 2017 F350 using an equalizer hitch. Just wondering if it's overkill or not.

Using the equalizer hitch with the F350 is not overkill. I have an F350 and am using my ProPride 3P for sway control. The F350 may not need the WD aspect, but like others have mentioned, it doesn't mind it. You will IMO want the sway control from the equalizer hitch. My 2 cents.

[dkottum]

It can be confusing in these discussions using the generic term "equalizer" hitch which refers to a basic weight distribution hitch, and "Equal-I-Zer" hitch which is a specific brand of weight distribution hitch.

The Equal-I-Zer brand has square, non-tapered weight distribution bars that have very little flexibility. It distributes weight well, but may transfer too much road shock from stiff truck suspensions to the Airstream. It also does not have the range of motion of flexible weight distribution bars which may put a great deal of stress on the truck's hitch receiver and attachments, as well as the Airstream's A-frame, when the truck is entering steep driveway inclines.

[Mollysdad]

Originally Posted by RandyNH

He seems to do fine.

That guy followed all the advice he got here!

[ksteve06]

Well after all the comments, some who think it's overkill I feel that I have a great setup and are really happy with it.
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[sheriff1]

Originally Posted by ksteve06

Well after all the comments, some who think it's overkill I feel that I have a great setup and are really happy with it.
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F350 4 wheel drive and equalizer brand!
Anything less just ain't enough!