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Old 04-11-2010, 11:07 PM   #15
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A few minutes ago, I was watching channel 4 NBC news from Los Angeles.

At the top of the "WORST" list was the Ford F-250, for having many serious safety defects. They did not go into any detail as to what those defects are.

Another "BAD" vehicle was the Cadillac "Escalade". Again, no explanation.

I didn't catch where channel 4 said they got that information.

Something to think about and investigate.

Andy
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The F-250 Super Duty is based on Ford's commercial truck platform, and is different from the F-150 (which we also tested). It's a work truck with moderate payload but great towing capabilities and little else to recommend it. It has a lousy ride and mediocre brakes.

And they go on to knock the engine noise as "harsh engine hum" (with the diesel being even noisier), describe the ride as "bone-jarring", and the steering as "slow and numb".

Throughout the article they were comparing the F-150 to the F-250, and I found this sentence especially interesting:

"The F-150 pulled our 7,400-pound trailer to 60 mph in 24.1 seconds. The F-250 took 18.9 seconds."

So you do get better trailer performance with the F-250, but the F-150 will tow 7,500 pounds....


Sadly, current owners are not "enjoying the ride":
Reliability

We expect reliability to be much worse than average, according to our latest subscriber survey.

That's the killer: it's down near the bottom of the heap in terms of reliability.

That doesn't mean that you will have problems, but you're more likely to than with most other trucks.
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:17 PM   #16
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A few minutes ago, I was watching channel 4 NBC news from Los Angeles.



At the top of the "WORST" list was the Ford F-250, for having many serious safety defects. They did not go into any detail as to what those defects are.

Another "BAD" vehicle was the Cadillac "Escalade". Again, no explanation.

I didn't catch where channel 4 said they got that information.

Something to think about and investigate.

Andy
They just said that about the f250 and moved on...????No facts? I can just hear it now...Today at 9o, on the L.A. Channel,, "F250's are the most dangerous trucks on the road" "Thats it, back to you Steve..."


From California? Commie California....I dang sure would not buy GM aka "Goverment Motors" C'mon, what do you think they are gonna say. It's California....Are you sure they didn't say that F250 are the most stolen trucks built today? Don't believe everything you hear in the media. Did they specify what year or just in general all F250's? I have owned several F250 diesels the old 7.3 and the 6.0 GREAT trucks. The 7.3 I traded with in with 198,000 miles and didn't have a thing go wrong with it ever. The 6.0 I have now has over 70,000 miles and runs true!!! In my lifetime I have owned over 17 Ford trucks and between my wife and our son we have owned a total of 25. Not one has had a major flaw or a complaint. We just keep upgrading. Can't wait for the NEW F250,suppose to be a real winner. Gonna put all the HD trucks on their bottoms.

After all of that, though I have NEVER wrecked on.

We'll see,

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Old 04-12-2010, 01:39 AM   #17
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I've had several both gas and diesel Ford trucks. It came home for me after towing not too far from your neighborhood on two occasions. Your address is W/SAC, so you know how hot it can get there. F250 gas motor towing a 9000 lb trailer on a long slight grade thru Redding going N on I5 when the temp was 108 degrees. The rest stop was packed with overheating vehicles, including mine. A few years later, towing the same trailer with a Ford 7.3 diesel, the temp at the same spot was 112 degrees. A/C on full and the 7.3 diesel just ignored the temperature outside. The torque is amazing but subtle. The big motor just doesn't have to work as hard.
Over the long term, hard to say from an economic analysis. Gut feeling, probably close to a wash. Diesel costs more up front, but gas motors can have more maintenance issues. Diesels get better mileage and require less maintenance other than oil and filters. A well designed diesel engine just runs and runs. The Ram (do you notice they don't call it a Dodge in ads any more?) uses a Cummings motor which has a very good history. The GM Duramax seems to do well too. Until the 2011 model, Ford used a subcontractor to build their light truck engines. This year, an all new Ford built 6.7 diesel has been introduced. That's my next truck.
Back to your original question, if it's gas, go with the V-10. If you go anywhere but south, you are going to be pulling long grades. You know those roads ( I do too.). Imagine being in a long line of semis pulling trailers up those long grades and you can only do about 3 mph better than they. Get the picture? Here's a thought. Someone should start a new post titled, "How many wish they had less power?" LOL
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Old 04-16-2010, 10:33 PM   #18
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Thanks to all for your advice. I bought the 2010 F-250 supercab/shortbed 4x4 with the V10 engine and 4.10 rear end. Power should not be an issue. Hopefully the wheelbase is long enough and the weight of the truck is heavy enough to avoid any sway issues with the 31' Excella 500. The wheelbase is 142" which is longer than suburbans/excursions. I wanted a truck that could fit in my garage and this truck does. The crew cab would have been too long. Now I just need to get the trailer axles replaced and convert the brakes from vacuum to electric and I'm good to go. I think a larger fuel tank from Transfer Flow is in my future too as a 30 gallon factory tank towing with a V10 is not going to get me very far in between fill ups.
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Hi, nice choice; post pictures and updates on your towing experiences with your new truck.
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Good choice! I'm sure you will be happy.
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Old 04-17-2010, 02:16 PM   #21
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Wow! - congrats on your new truck....that's pretty much the exact model/specs I'd also get if a new truck were in the cards for us...

Our Exc with the 137 inch WB handles our 28 ft AS like a dream, so you're new rig should have no problems at all...good choice...

We recently sold our 99 F-350 4x4 supercab (long bed for a Lance camper) and really liked that cab configuration - except the short bed is a much better choice for towing...

That 4.10 gearing should work great for for the best all-around towing, etc...wish I had those gears in our Exc (we have the 3.73s), as I think it would be better up in the high mountains...

I'd also like a LS diff in the rear - but I must admit I didn't have any trouble running on the loose sand dunes with the Exc last fall when I put on my big rims/tires (18 inch/325R65/18-ProComp Xterrains) from the F-350 - so the LS diff wasn't really needed...

Have lots of fun with the new rig...

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