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Old 09-27-2006, 02:27 PM   #29
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Diesels get 0 gas mileage because diesels don't use gas.
Thought no one was going to catch on to that one!

I have an '05 PSD with crew cab and short bed as you can see below. I have the 3.73 rear end, 5 speed transmission, two wheel drive, front and rear sway bars, and the Lariat trim with the luxury package. You can actually get the Lariat without leather, but most people go for the leather when they spend upward of $40K for a truck.

The sway bars really make for a smooth ride and I recommend them. I think they may be an option the dealer can add, but don't quote me on that one. When you test drive new 3/4 ton trucks bear in mind that dealers often lower the air pressure to soften the ride so you will have to check that after purchase. It really affects towing handling...I know from experience...and will affect ride when the proper tire pressure is added.

I live in Atlanta and if you have ever driven in Atlanta traffic you know 75 MPH is the norm and I get 17-18 MPG's on my daily commute and 20+ on interstate driving without the Airstream. With it I get between 12.5-13 MPG's. When we camp we have two adults, two elementary school aged boys, and a cocker spaniel plus a cooler, pic-nic basket of snacks, two portable DVD players and a bin full of DVD's. There is plenty of room in that crew cab.

I really enjoy towing my 30' Safari with my F-250 PSD. I have towed quiet a bit in the mountains and on mountain interstates this summer and really look forward to it. I set the cruise control for interstate speeds and don't have to worry about mountains or elevations.

No one has discussed the built-in brake controler. I really like mine. No worries. The system is tied into the master cylinder on the truck so as long as you have truck, brakes you have trailer brakes...barring electrical problems of course. If I understood correctly, if I get into a anti-lock braking scenario, the controler will also pulse the trailer brakes to help prevent jack knifing. It doesn't create anti-lock brakes on the Airstream, but it simulates them and helps prevent trailer skidding. So far, I haven't found out how effective that is, but at least going into an emergency situation, I will have one less thing to worry about.

I also like having the extendable mirrors. You can add a similar product to any of the competition, but I like the fact that I didn't have to add them. The mirrors are large, power adjustable (but not power extendable) and have independent pano mirrors built in. I feel that I have virtually no blind spots without the trailer and can really see where the trailer is when towing down the road. Backing...well, I'm still getting used to that.

I know I will have my F-250 for many years and many thousands of miles to come. And the next tow vehicle will probably be another 3/4 ton Ford truck, but who knows what will be on the market in 2015!
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:32 PM   #30
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I just looked at a 2001 f250 diesel xl with only 60k miles sunday a week ago. It has 2 gas tanks with a total of 60 gallons, full side steps, extendable mirrors, $1600 bed covers with 3 doors and in mint condition except for a dime size bent on top of bed corner. It has a 2 years transferable warranty on trans.
Forgot new michelin tires in front and other goodies. I was going to buy it but medical problems just surfaced in family. The guy is asking 18k. He sold his immaculate 2000 AIRSTREAM last week here in SC and is travelling back to florida. He told me it will be listed in the Blue Beret october issue. I can dig up his phone number maybe.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:03 PM   #31
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Diesels get 0 gas mileage because diesels don't use gas.
Goin camping, I was thinking since diesels don't use gas you can go as long as the truck runs with diesel fuel and since you calculate MPG by dividing the numbers of miles traveled by the number of gallons used, then it stand to reason that for example 100000miles divided by 0 gallons of gas used= infinity. What is wrong with my thinking? Please advise.
FrenchBern-you are approaching hydrogen fuel cell philosophy...
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:22 PM   #32
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FrenchBern-you are approaching hydrogen fuel cell philosophy...
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:28 PM   #33
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I have a 7.3 psd w/banks package. Towing @60 I get 15-16 hwy, I figure I lose about 1 mpg for every 4mph above that. Without the trailer, I get about 22 @65, down to about 16 around town. If I cruise @ 80, I'm down to about 18mpg. I love the truck. It's comfortable, heavy, leather is great, nice sound system. When I tow, I have to look in the mirror to make sure it's still there. The only thing I can say is, stay away from the newer 6.0, or wait for the new 6.7. I got that from a retired Ford exec, and a couple of mechanics. I would highly recomend it.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:30 PM   #34
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We currently have a F250 Harley davidson edition. We tow a 28foot CCD and put the Harley in the bed. We get around 10mpg fully loaded and towing. I try to stay around 65mph any faster and the gas milage really takes a nose dive.

If you have not got your truck yet I would hold off . Ford has a new diesel in the pipeline that should come out in the 08 model year. The new engine is a twin turbo and I have heard nothing but good things about it.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:31 PM   #35
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The only thing I can say is, stay away from the newer 6.0, or wait for the new 6.7. I got that from a retired Ford exec, and a couple of mechanics. I would highly recomend it.
I can second (or third) that statement. If you want a brand-new truck, wait for the new engine. Patience, Grasshopper.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:46 PM   #36
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I have not got anything as of yet.I am still in the works of searching for the right vehicle.It may take a year or two.two or more if I decide to see what this twin turbo deal is up to.Before I purchase anything I just want to make sure I am spending the money wisely as this will be only for towing so it will not really be drivin a whole lot but rather just collecting dust when not in use.I would drive it accasionally though to keep its gears oiled.I will have the other vehicle to drive around.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:29 PM   #38
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Diesels get 0 gas mileage because diesels don't use gas.
Goin camping, I was thinking since diesels don't use gas you can go as long as the truck runs with diesel fuel and since you calculate MPG by dividing the numbers of miles traveled by the number of gallons used, then it stand to reason that for example 100000miles divided by 0 gallons of gas used= infinity. What is wrong with my thinking? Please advise.
Hi, Since you asked. In reality you would get about three to five miles per gallon of gas in your Diesel; Before your engine is destroyed. As for your infinity theory, infinity would not stop at 100,000 miles. Infinity goes on forever.

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Old 09-27-2006, 11:33 PM   #39
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I've got a F-150 SuperCab with the 6.5 ft bed and a HD Dresser. Wife and I would love to be able to take the HD with us when we travel. How do you fit your HD in the bed and still tow the AS? I've seen people put them in on a diagonal but the Dresser REALLY needs alot of room and I'd need to have the gate down in order to accomplish this. Gate won't clear the electric jack motor.
Any thoughts/suggestions???
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I've got a F-150 SuperCab with the 6.5 ft bed and a HD Dresser. Wife and I would love to be able to take the HD with us when we travel. How do you fit your HD in the bed and still tow the AS? I've seen people put them in on a diagonal but the Dresser REALLY needs alot of room and I'd need to have the gate down in order to accomplish this. Gate won't clear the electric jack motor.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:06 AM   #41
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You have to justify the cost of a diesel and quite frankly, it doesn't make sense in the long run of the "average" user. Having said that, I own one and would not own anything else, but its a cost I absorb in my own taste, preference and Peace of mind. Most of us are losing money because you will trade or die before you recoup the benefits, dollar for dollar. Not all, but most and I'm talking about just towing RVs. Some use them for business as well and that's different. You just have to weigh the benefits. The last calculation I did years ago when diesel was the same price as regular gas was that it would take 90K miles to break even with the added MPG of a diesel, given the price of the diesel upgrade.
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Interesting...what is the ball-park $ of mor-rydes?

as i recall around 5-700$ depending on model and install.

can be done at the factory, by your local mechanic or at home..

the unit basically replaces the rear shackle on the leaf springs...

so the leafs continue to function for large bumps and load carrying,

while the rubber units dampen high frequency 'road' harshness...

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