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Old 11-20-2015, 09:52 PM   #43
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Watching the video made me feel good about owning a 2005 6.0L F-350! Think I'll stop reading now in case someone refutes what he had to say.
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Old 11-20-2015, 10:35 PM   #44
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I have known several people who have had the 6.0L PowerStroke and not had any problems. I think there are a couple of real keys to that:
Don't abuse them, and keep the regular maintenance current.

If I was looking for a new-to-me truck, I would contact Bill Hewitt to see if he had a 6.0L ready to go (or one of the newer 7.3L's). Like he said in the video, once they are bullet-proofed, you can plan on getting 500,000 miles out of them IF you take care of them.

He has a lot of good info, and experience to back up his recommendations. He knows the strong and weak points of each generation of PowerStrokes. He can tell you how to fix most of those weak points, how to get long life out of the trucks, or he can help you get some really crazy-high-performance out of those trucks. Better have deep pockets for that, though. Me? I am NOT money-bags, and need my trucks to last.

I'm sure if he had decided to focus on Dodges, he'd have good info for those, and likewise for the Duramax's. Either way, he'd have more work than he could keep up with even without advertising.

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Watching the video made me feel good about owning a 2005 6.0L F-350! Think I'll stop reading now in case someone refutes what he had to say.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:27 PM   #45
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Gas owner myself by choice. Couldn't afford to repair diesel trucks. Diesel is all I have driven at work for the past two decades. I have made a ton of money when they break down though. Company makes us stay with the truck until a tow truck picks them up which can be hours on the clock. Current 2011 6.7 F450 is on its second block. Most of our fleet are shop queens, 7.3, 6.0, 6.4 and 6.7 Fords. Also have a couple of 6.7 Dodges too. Just lost two 6.4s last month with blown up motors. Our trucks are not overused or over worked. Just service body fleet trucks. If you do have one then always buy clean fresh fuel, keep up with the maintenance and unload them once the warranty runs out. Yes my experience is with fleet usage but what better way to experience the troubles with these light duty trucks where I don't have to pay for the repairs? We should have opted for gas V-10s all along. We have a few in other departments and they are never in the shop with the entire cab lifted off for repairs. I am a Ford guy and it really blows to share the experience about these engines. I feel bad for the guys out there that work for themselves and have to deal with these problems. Zero confidence in any of the light duty diesel truck engines. We put a man on the moon over forty years ago you would think we could master a light duty diesel engine.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:45 PM   #46
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We have bought Ford and Chevy Diesel light duty "fleet" trucks in a couple of eras, in the 80s, and then again in the 00s.

Both times I said never again.

They cost a TON more to keep running, and it makes me nervous every time I send them out.

My gas trucks in the same duty last three times as long and hardly ever break.

To me modern Ford and GM small diesels are not worth the trouble and expense.

My dad bought Dodge diesel trucks, they have been pretty good and reliable, but not as reliable and cheap to own as their gas counterparts.

If I HAD to buy a diesel pickup it would be a Ram.

In my experience Ford and GM gas trucks are great, their Diesels, not so much.


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Old 11-21-2015, 05:03 AM   #47
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Just wondering. how much time is spent sitting at idle? Sal
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Old 11-21-2015, 08:04 AM   #48
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Not much at all with my trucks.


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Idling a bunch, running a bunch basically using them like a truck should be used. We don't baby the diesel trucks or the gas trucks. They are properly maintained and get the freshest fuel because of the shear volume of fuel our fleet uses. They just aren't reliable enough for me to own one and travel with. My gas truck doesn't have the power of a diesel but then again I don't need that much power to drag the airstream, farm tractors or skidsteer around. If I did need more power and needed a diesel then I would have to go with the dodge.
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Watching the video made me feel good about owning a 2005 6.0L F-350! Think I'll stop reading now in case someone refutes what he had to say.
Me too, let's get the heck out of here.
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Old 11-21-2015, 12:33 PM   #51
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Never buy a used company truck, fleet truck, or rental. The drivers don't own them and they beat the crap out of them. Our employee driven vehicles were trashed much more than the same vehicle that was privately owned. I would never trust a vehicle report from a fleet company.
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Old 11-21-2015, 12:41 PM   #52
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As a rule fleet vehicles will take a beating by drivers, but many are well maintained.

My position isn't that fleet vehicles don't have it rough, but that two otherwise identical vehicles, one gas, and one diesel, in identical service will have drastically different breakdown frequency and higher cost of repair over their lifetime.

This is simply my experience over many years.

I WANTED the diesels to be better trucks, (I really did) This would have made me look smarter for paying more for them, but this just wasn't the reality.


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Old 11-21-2015, 01:05 PM   #53
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Fwiw, it is my observation that FedEx and UPS are transitioning away from Diesel to gas on their delivery trucks over the past few years.

I cant say how long it has been since I have heard a diesel UPS or FedEx truck.


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Never buy a used company truck, fleet truck, or rental. The drivers don't own them and they beat the crap out of them. Our employee driven vehicles were trashed much more than the same vehicle that was privately owned. I would never trust a vehicle report from a fleet company.

I agree on that. I bet our trucks are better taken care of than most because it's how we earn our living. But the experience I shared is because these are the same engines that are bought by all. Just used harder than the average grocery getter. What better way to find out how a truck holds up than seeing how they perform in a fleet? You can't get that kind of real world testing with other vehicles. I would love to own one for the power but can't afford the cost of repairs or unreliability for traveling to distant places. To each his own I guess.
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We have never planned on a large diesel pickup, but have been considering a smaller Ram Ecodiesel or European diesel SUV such as Mercedes or Touareg.

Getting afterthoughts here, I'm assuming these are prone to the same diesel issues caused by the late model emission control devices?
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