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Old 04-05-2005, 11:49 AM   #15
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I called Airstream Tech Support today and got the cross reference for my shock abosorbers on the Minuet. It is the same "Airstream" shock absorber that sells for $35 each "elsewhere".
It is a Gabriel shock. The number is: 0220003. This is the number that Airstream gave me. They said that the shock can be ordered from almost any auto parts store.
Pep Boys has ordered them for me. They are $20 each! Pretty good deal for the same exact shock!
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:26 PM   #16
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I thought the Gabrielís WERE gas. I know they are supposedly "Special" but I always questioned how "special" they really were since the part number crossed over to NAPA. The Gabrielís are readily available from any Airstream dealer so I never bothered to chase down the other brands.

Another note on installation, I had to bend the bracket to get the buggers off but it pounded right back and doesnít appear to have weakened the bracket.
I suppose the bracket would be fine, even if it's bent back and forth a few times over the life of the trailer.
I went to a Napa store to check out their shocks, and they were substantially stiffer with a slight pre-load than new Airstream originals by Gabriel. The Gabriels are rather soft, merely dampening the vertical wheel movements, but without adding much stiffness to the ride. I doubt that there's even a breath of gas in there - sounds like 100% Hydraulic shock action. My logic tells me that that's the best solution for the Airstream torsion suspension.
Either way, I doubt that shocks are that big of an issue, as rubber torsion suspension is self damping to begin with. Nevertheless, not being a mechanical engineer, I'll go witht eh flow and put Airstream shocks on my 1963 Overlander, as I did on my 1971 Tradewind.
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:08 AM   #17
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Question When to replace shocks

1. I'm curious as when to replace shocks if there is no physical evidence of leakage, damage, or other deterioration?

2. At first glance, it appears that there is not sufficent room to replace the shocks because the mounting studs are opposed to each other. So when the axle is unsprung is there sufficient room to install the shock or does the axle need to partically dropped?

Thank for the replies.
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Old 05-14-2005, 10:19 PM   #18
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I finally set aside a whole day to replace my shocks. I used the info supplied here and all went well.

I used the aerokroil to get the mounting nuts off and they came off quite easily. Thanks for that tip!

Also, bending the mounting bracket to get clearance for the nut and shock to be mounted worked well.

Took me about 3 hours including cleanup to get all four done. Another project completed.

Since I had some spare time, I cleaned up my entrance step and used POR15 and blackcoat topcoat on it. Turned out nicely too.
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Old 05-15-2005, 07:42 AM   #19
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where do you get the kroil?
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Old 05-15-2005, 08:49 AM   #20
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I had never heard of kroil before... Guess I'll make a note to try some. I found some here.

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Old 05-15-2005, 09:15 AM   #21
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Try http://www.kanolabs.com/
I have used it for years and it has yet to fail me. Petty tough stuff.
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Old 05-15-2005, 09:31 AM   #22
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where do you get the kroil?
Chuck,

I got it from Kano Labs .

One of my big worries was breaking off the shock mount since mine are welded on. So I did not even try to remove them w/o the aerokroil.

I sprayed it on and waited a couple of minutes and they just spun loose, like I tightened them yesterday not over 30 years ago.

Don't know if I really needed it, but it was worth it

BTW, they are very strict on this stuff. After I ordered it online, they called me first to ask what I wanted it for before they would ship it
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Old 05-15-2005, 04:58 PM   #23
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Tim,

Did you buy "genuine Airstream" shocks, or did you find a suitable replacement?

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Old 05-15-2005, 05:22 PM   #24
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Did you buy "genuine Airstream" shocks, or did you find a suitable replacement?

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Yes, I went with genuine Airstream shocks. I purcahsed them from oasisrv.com. They were about $34 each.

How do you tell if the old ones are bad? They seem to have the same amount of resistance both pushing in and pulling out as the brand new ones.
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Tim,

Your shocks would have passed my test. Between what you did, and checking for no external leakage, those are the only two things I look for.

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p.s. I went with the genuine thing too FWIW
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Your shocks would have passed my test. Between what you did, and checking for no external leakage, those are the only two things I look for.

Tom.
p.s. I went with the genuine thing too FWIW
I'm no mechanic and have never replaced shocks before. But these new AS ones did not seem to offer much in the way of resistance at all.

Like I said, the original ones felt the same. So, just because they are 30+ years old, may not a reason to replace them...

But now I can say their new

Tom, How did your original shocks test to you?
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Old 05-15-2005, 07:25 PM   #27
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I got mine directly from Kano Labs.
I am pretty sure their url is: www.kanolabs.com
If you buy one order of the AeroKroil they will send you a free full-sized sample of another product! At least they were offering that back in April.
I got the Penephite as my free product. Used it in all of my locks. It is really good stuff!
The AeroKroil loosened up all of the rusty stuff I had. Works a million times better than WD-40 would ever work! I was amazed.
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Old 05-17-2005, 08:50 AM   #28
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...Tom, How did your original shocks test to you?
Tim,

Oddly enough, all four shocks still had good resistance although three of them were leaky. But I had to replace them because the rubber bushings had deteriorated rather badly.

On a side note, I was looking forward to replacing the shocks as it gave me a chance to use the new Ingersoll Rand 375 ft-lb impact wrench I had bought to loosen lugnuts. Talk about instant gratification! da-da-da-da-ZING!! Nut's off.

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