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03-26-2018, 11:56 AM
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#61
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Never signed up for Fa(r)ceBook.
Never will.
How easily we give away our secrets!
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03-26-2018, 12:00 PM
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#62
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Never signed up for Fa(r)ceBook.
Never will.
How easily we give away our secrets!
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Ditto. Speaking as a 'certified information system security professional' it's a disaster, and always has been totally insecure...
Besides the fact that I'd rather choose my friends, and talk to them in person or on the phone...I spend too much time goofing off on the internet (like the Airstream Forums (grin)) as it is...
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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03-26-2018, 12:03 PM
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#63
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverHouseDreams
Something is always terrifying to those that don’t understand it. Some are terrified of sharks. Some of coyotes that are “in town”. Some of someone that doesn’t look “like them”. Many others have absurd levels of paranoia and are terrorized by them regarding technology. I can see where many land in this thread
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In my profession, our usual explanation of this is, "Just because you are paranoid does NOT mean they are NOT out to get you..."
I'm paid to be paranoid, and I'm VERY good at it...
"The cake is a lie." And I can guarantee most of my alleged personal information on the internet is every bit as much a lie...
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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03-26-2018, 12:10 PM
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#64
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
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I’m not on Facebook either, but discovered via google some time back that everything under the sun was being tracked and used and shared.
I turned everything off, particularly Siri & Search, and monitor this more closely now, but so many things are turned on automatically with updates that I have to set an alert on my calendar.
I no longer have an Android phone, either, but plenty is unknowingly tracked with the IPhone, I am sure.
Maggie
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03-26-2018, 12:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,089
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
In my profession, our usual explanation of this is, "Just because you are paranoid does NOT mean they are NOT out to get you..."
I'm paid to be paranoid, and I'm VERY good at it...
"The cake is a lie." And I can guarantee most of my alleged personal information on the internet is every bit as much a lie...
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I’m not paranoid, I am experienced.
Maggie
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03-26-2018, 12:23 PM
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#66
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily&Me
I’m not paranoid, I am experienced.
Maggie
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And I salute your experience, and your obvious ability to learn much from it!
In my experience, some never learn at all...sadly.
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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03-26-2018, 01:10 PM
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#67
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,656
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"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that others aren't spying on you."
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03-27-2018, 02:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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. . . also remember . . .
"The light at the end of the tunnel may be a fast freight train heading your way!"
Well said, Maggie.
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05-25-2018, 04:10 AM
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#69
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,089
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05-26-2018, 04:29 AM
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Reads a lot
2017 30' Classic
Titusville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,209
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“I’m sorry Dave, I can’t do that” - HAL9000
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05-26-2018, 09:00 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,089
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Yeah, if we knew the true extent...
Maggie
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05-26-2018, 09:13 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
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We had a very eerie phone incident two weeks ago. We received via a snail mail and invitation to a family member's college graduation party. SuEllyn and I discussed it, and we decided that we would make the 300 mile trip to Dade City for the party. When I went to put the information about the party on the calendar in my phone, I found that it was already there including the time and the location. ?????????????????????????
Brian
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05-26-2018, 09:48 AM
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#73
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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The higher your expectations the fewer your options.
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05-26-2018, 10:24 AM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
We had a very eerie phone incident two weeks ago. We received via a snail mail and invitation to a family member's college graduation party. SuEllyn and I discussed it, and we decided that we would make the 300 mile trip to Dade City for the party. When I went to put the information about the party on the calendar in my phone, I found that it was already there including the time and the location. ?????????????????????????
Brian
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The difference between us and The Millennials.
We find it disturbing; they find it cool and convenient.
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05-26-2018, 11:17 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markdoane
The difference between us and The Millennials.
We find it disturbing; they find it cool and convenient.
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I'm a millennial. I think you're way off-base. While I don't claim to speak for my entire generation (we're not all the same, after all), data collection, sharing, and privacy is a huge issue for everyone. We might see our relationship with technology a little differently, but we're all concerned.
The technology is not going away. Unless we all band together to put rules in place to prevent abuse and punish bad actors, companies will continue to do whatever helps their bottom line. And unless you want to live in a cabin in the woods with no electronics, you can't just "opt out" of this stuff.
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05-28-2018, 05:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,344
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You can turn off app access to the microphone, and turn off Siri, etc.
The only things that pop up in my feed are things I look at a lot, like Harleys, Airstreams and dogs. I’ve never had something picked up out of a conversation and show up on my phone. I think some people forget what they’ve looked at and are surprised when it comes up.
It DOES update the location of my vehicle and it knows when I’m at work, because location is turned on but I could turn that off if I really cared.
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05-28-2018, 06:06 AM
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#77
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r carl
[YouTube link in earlier post]
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Great clip, thanks. A Jim Carrey piece, What It All Means, popped up next, and is worth a watch also IMO.
https://www.you [remove this] tube.com/watch?v=wTblbYqQQag
Peter
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05-29-2018, 07:12 AM
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#78
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Tommy Bahama
Marana
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatleys
And unless you want to live in a cabin in the woods with no electronics, you can't just "opt out" of this stuff.
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Sure you can.
Society was doing just fine before social media, better actually I would argue. I “opted out” years ago because it became a “time vampire” for me.
Personally I find that I keep in touch with my true friends regardless.
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05-29-2018, 08:01 AM
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#79
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleBad
Sure you can.
Society was doing just fine before social media, better actually I would argue. I “opted out” years ago because it became a “time vampire” for me.
Personally I find that I keep in touch with my true friends regardless.
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You're saying this using a computer, posting on the internet, on a social media platform.
Yes, you can choose not to actively participate in social media (though neither of us have), but that doesn't stop you from being monitored. Your data is still being collected, shared, and sold. Facebook tracks you regardless of whether you use the service. Google tracks everyone it interacts with, which is pretty much everyone.
Do you have an email account? A bank? A library card? A driver's license? Buy stuff on Amazon? Ever go to the doctor?
You can't just opt out of this stuff. Digital privacy is everyone's problem, even those of us who don't use Facebook.
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05-29-2018, 08:29 AM
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#80
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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No...
...my 'smart phone' is in the 3rd semester of 2nd grade. 😂
Bob
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