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Old 01-29-2006, 10:34 PM   #15
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not the perfect solution......

here is what i do.....

carry the laptop and wireless card.

when possible find a hot spot while close to metro areas or college towns....man they are everywhere now.

when rural......i stop in the local library......even really small spots have them.....or the senior centers in the tiny tiny locales....usually they will just let you use their computer....

if i'm camped way off the grid, but within bike riding distance of the small towns, i cycle into town and find the library or s/center....or ask someone if i can 'check my email'....being on a bike, folks become more open to helping......and there's no trailer for them to ask questions about .

on one ride the local library was closed t/r/s but the librarian was working in the next town, open on those days....so i rode twice as far as i planned but still got the internet connection....then looped back to the trailer.

i'd like to add one of the two way satellite systems because cell towers aren't an issue....but they are still a little pricey unless full timin'.

http://eduscapes.com/mm/motosat/ or
www.motosat.com


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Old 01-29-2006, 10:50 PM   #16
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The cell solution is fine if you are in an area covered by cell signals. Some of the places I go dont have cell coverage
We have an amplifier and an antenna on the AS....makes a big difference. Where we live and travel, it also makes a difference which cell phone service you use. Hint: the ONLY cell phone service that works in Yosemite National Park is Verizon! When we become fulltimers , maybe I will take a look at Verizon's broadband again....thanks, Grizzy!

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Old 01-29-2006, 11:37 PM   #17
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Connecting to the Internet while in the middle of nowhere

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I would love to know if anyone has overcome connecting to the Internet while in the middle of nowhere at a reasonable cost. I have looked into satellite and celluar systems. Any advice is welcome.
Hey TJ,
Cellular actually works pretty well especially if you have Verizon service.
Verizon has 3 different access methods;
Q2n, Quick to Net, works at 14.4kb country wide where ever digital service is available. This is slow but does work. No additional cost on nights & weekends.
1xRTT service is about 100kb and is available over about 50 % of the country. This is primarily what I use. No additional cost on nights & weekends.
EVDO broadband is about 400 kb and is available only in major cities so far. This is an extra cost option.
Coverage maps are available on the Verizonwireless web site.

With all of these options, Verizonwireless is functioning as your Internet Service Provider. If you use web based e-mail like Microsoft's "Hotmail" or Yahoo's Mail or Google's Gmail, you can have e-mail anywhere with no need to dial your home Internet Service Provider.

More info on all cellular options is available at the Yahoo group;
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InternetByCellPhone/

I have found that it helps a great deal to install an external cell phone antenna on top of your Airstream for greatly improved service in remote areas.

PS: Come to one of the WBCCI New Mexico Unit Rallies and I will be glad to show you how well it can work.
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Old 01-30-2006, 12:18 AM   #18
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Thanks... I have looked into Verizon a little, but am afraid to coverage is too limiting for my desires. I want to surf from places like Chaco Canyon, Jemez Springs, and the San Juan. Directway looks interesting... but the $$'s.

I look forward to meeting you soon. My wife and I are new AS owners and will join wbcci in the near future.

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Old 01-30-2006, 12:50 AM   #19
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Thanks... I have looked into Verizon a little, but am afraid to coverage is too limiting for my desires. I want to surf from places like Chaco Canyon, Jemez Springs, and the San Juan. Directway looks interesting... but the $$'s.

I look forward to meeting you soon. My wife and I are new AS owners and will join wbcci in the near future.

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I bought my TT from someone who stored it at the San Juan (Abe's boat storage) and my fly fishing club also makes a yearly trip to the river. Forget the cell phone, coverage is very poor. I have Verizon and the only spot to get a signal is on top of the dam.
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With the TREO 600 Cingular, and PDAnet software, I get 57k connection speeds. I am constantly using it on the road. Most people that are still on dial up don't even connect at 57k.

My buddy, with a TREO 650 and Cingular service, using PDAnet I get 192k connection speeds. That is very good considering it is unlimited data for $29 a month. It is blue tooth as well.

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Given how/where you want to use it, I don't see any alternative to satellite -- this can be quite expensive to get something you can use on a mobile setup but should meet your needs as long as you keep access to a southern view.
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Just how expensive is satellite service? Is there any indication at all that satellite service will be coming down in price anytime soon?
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One example is Datastorm ( www.datastorm.com ). Equipment price is around $5000 and monthly service is around $80. I'm sure these prices will coe down, but much more slowly for mobile units since the demand is relatively small. I believe you can also get satellite TV with these systems. You might try to google (RV Satellite Internet) -- that should get you to lots of choices
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I hear that the Datastorm system is clearly the favorite of RVers
traveling in Mexico. Most say they get a clear signal as far south as Mazatlan.
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Satellite for the really remote

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Just how expensive is satellite service? Is there any indication at all that satellite service will be coming down in price anytime soon?
Satellite sounds like the answer to the original post, for sure. If you know you'll be somewhere with no cell coverage, no wifi hotspots, and lacking tin cans and string, satellite would work for you.

Really, the monthly satellite fees are not "horrible", it's the initial equipment cost that left me in a little shock. The high end fully automated systems are deep into the thousands, and that's not even talking installation. As others noted, Datastorm is one of the well know ways to connect over satellite.

Some of the big questions with satellite involve installation. There are several vendors that will sell you the equipment and give you the "how to's" on setting up on your own with a tripod mount. The satellite providers sometimes call this an unsupported "no-no" (had a long phone conversation about it with one of the big name providers).

The automatic setups do work most everywhere (be sure to have a clear view of the southern sky though). If you want to know tons more about satellite, check out http://www.datastormusers.com . According to one user, it's about $5400 (equip & install), and $99 per month for usage.

Also, if you want to follow along with a neat blog, powered by satellite internet, see http://vagabonders-supreme.net/blog/blog.html (Tioga George's site). While not an Airstreamer, George is a proud datastorm user, and it has work really well for him.
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Datastorm clear signal as far south as Mazatlan

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I should think that it would work even better the closer you get to the equator. Aren't these satellites parked in geosynchronous orbits over the equator? Seems like going north to Alaska would be more of a problem.
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Your location relative to the satellite

Not sure if being closer to the equator would help, or wouldn't.

The dish setup on the RV side of things is what's really important though. The satellites provide their signals to a big patch of ground. But, your Dish needs to target a specific point in the sky, the satellite you're going to send data back to. And you've got a smaller power output when shooting back to that satellite.

According to the vendor's I've spoken with, that's why they recommend installations with the auto tracking systems. The system re-aligns your dish when you move to a new location. Manual alignment on a tripod might not get the exact satellite location.
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I should think that it would work even better the closer you get to the equator. Aren't these satellites parked in geosynchronous orbits over the equator? Seems like going north to Alaska would be more of a problem.
Not being much of a techie, I probably shouldn't even be in this discussion:
but I've recently been gathering information about traveling to Mexico and discovered a website called rovingproductions.com. It belongs to a couple
that have spent over a year making a video guide to RVing in Mexico. They have posted an ongoing forum discussion on RV.net (under the screen name
"tahoenow"). They've spoken of their DataStorm dish using Directway
as a provider - and several others have joined in sharing their experiences.
It's a long read, but quite fascinating and chock full of great advice about
all aspects of being on the road in Mexico.
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