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11-09-2010, 06:50 PM
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Atwood does not use or need an anode rod. The suburban units need the anode rod.
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11-11-2010, 10:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1988 25' Excella
Trumbull
, Connecticut
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Arrwood water heater plug
Thanks for all the ideas. In one of the posts it was indicated that attwoon did not need an anode rod, Why?
Regards nm1oqrz
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11-11-2010, 10:27 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Excella 500
Spring Green
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2010
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I'm not sure if all Atwood water heaters are manufactured without the anode rod, but mine doesn't have one. Here is how they work, Sacrificial Anodes: What keeps water heaters from rusting out
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11-12-2010, 12:57 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 30' Classic
Sammamish
, Washington
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Anode rods should not be used in newer Atwood water heaters. The reason for this is that these water heaters have a protective cladding to protect the tank. If anode rods are used in newer Atwood water heaters, they will void the warranty. I do not know where the cutoff is for "newer" water heaters. For more information you can contact Atwood at: 800-546-8759
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11-16-2010, 09:12 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1988 25' Excella
Trumbull
, Connecticut
Join Date: Sep 2010
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I called Attwood technical dept today and asked about anode rods. attwood said that their water heaters are alunimium and an anode rod is not needed. They also said that putting the anode rod in their water heaters will damage the water heater tank by the anode rod getting welded into the drain threads and being unable to remove it, thus requiring a new tank. The tech also said the people who market the anode rods for attwood water heaters should be sued. Hope this helps Regards nm1oqrz
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11-16-2010, 09:17 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1988 25' Excella
Trumbull
, Connecticut
Join Date: Sep 2010
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I forgot to mention that the tech said that attwood water heaters have been alunimum for as long as he can remember so he said the to never use the anode rod in any attwood water heater regardless of age. Regards nm1oqrz
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11-16-2010, 10:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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I installed an air compressor tank drain.
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11-16-2010, 11:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2007
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I have never had a problem with my petcock on my water heater.Mine is the radiator drain/wingnut type. One thing to remember is these are supposed to be only finger tight. I open the drain cock and the drain valves in the rear of the trailer,raise the tongue .Unhook the fresh water supply,add a length of plastic hose,pump in (because I choose too) 6 1/2 gallons of RV antifreeze. Checking each outlet(Galley sink,shower,lav.,toilet and then the water heater draincock and all run PINK,I'm good to go to -50 below.I know its over kill but that's the easiest for me. I have so far not had a problem.
I do agree that,I wish they had found a more convenient place for a drain ,I cant even see mine,I have to feel for it.
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11-16-2010, 03:48 PM
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2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Typically I have usually flushed out the tank at the end of the season using a wand type of device that is sold at Camping World. It used to go by the name "Tank Saver". Your water hose connected to a fitting that had a small pipe that would be inserted into the water heater via the drain plug hole. It directed a high pressure water stream that would scour the minerals off the tank walls. It was quite remarkable and getting that crud out will add years to the life to the water heater. My old Hi-Lo had a Suburban heater and I had 14 years of service prior to selling the trailer.
Fast forward to my current Classic that has an Atwood 2 way gas/electric water heater. I typically use electric, only turning on the gas when we shower. With both electric and gas operating, the water heater recovers much faster.
Last year I didn't due my usual tank flush with the Tank Saver so this year I made sure to do it. Much to my surprise no debris came out of the tank. As a matter of fact I have never seen debris exiting which makes me curious regarding the Atwood. Could it be that electric water heating tends to not cause the mineral build up that I've seen in gas only water heaters? Or does it have something to do with the aluminum tank?
Jack
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11-16-2010, 04:59 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
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Join Date: May 2009
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I put one of these in my last trailer.
1/2" RV Water Heater Drain Valve
I have not got around to it yet in the new one.
Ken
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11-16-2010, 05:17 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
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My understanding is that residential water heaters have much less crud build up if the heat is electric rather than gas. Gas heat is provided through a tube running up through the center of the heater heating the water and exhausting gasses through the top, leaving a large surface area to corrode. Electric heat has the element screwed into the side of the tank immersed in the water.
What does this have to do with RV heaters? I don't know because in an RV heater there is no tube. The flame is under the tank and the gasses exhaust through the exterior vent. If there's something in electric heat which creates less crud, I don't know what it is.
Electric water heaters take more time to heat water. The higher btu's of gas may have an effect on speeding up the chemical reactions within the tank even though the end result is water just as hot. Also, if you filter your water with an exterior filter, you'll get less silt in the water and therefore, less in the tank. Even so, some stuff will collect.
By process of elimination, it seems aluminum is the answer—and isn't it always the answer?
Gene
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05-13-2011, 11:10 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
San Diego
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Teflon Tape on Plug Thread?
I used the water heater over the weekend and I noticed that I had a small drip out of the nylon plug that drains the tank. I took it out and drained the rest of the water and noticed that the threads had pipe joint compound on them instead of teflon tape. It came from the factory like that and I have never removed the plug before. (I've never had Bambi in freezing temps).
Does anybody have any experience with teflon tape vs. pipe joint compound?
Thanks, Randy Bowman
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05-13-2011, 12:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
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I use teflon tape with a drain petcock. Always have, in my old trailer too. No leaks.
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05-14-2011, 09:30 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Randy, Nylon and plastic plugs are less likely to leak as they are somewhat flexible and tend to fill any spaces through which water may infiltrate if tight enough. Sometimes a speck of dirt on the threads can allow a leak. I haven't used anything on our drain plug and have no leaks. Pipe compound may degrade over the 6 or 7 years it has been in there. Teflon does not, in my opinion, seal as well as pipe compound, but it does make it easier to tighten a threaded connection as it acts like a lubricant on the threads.
Since you don't have to the winterize where you live, it is understandable you have left the plug in. But sediment collects at the bottom of the hot water heater tank and you need to flush it from time to time. Some Airstreams have a drain under the water heater which helps drain the lines and maybe the tank—it's not clear to me just how much the tank drains from it. You can fill the tank with a hose and flush the tank—it's not very efficient because the drain is above the bottom of the tank, but eventually you'll get sediment out. If you have a drain under the trailer, it might get rid of the sediment by filling the tank with a hose at the drain hole on the side and letter the water run out the drain under the trailer.
Some people, like dzn', replace the plastic plug with a metal petcock. Teflon should usually work fine with metal to metal connections. I prefer pipe compound as I think it provides a better seal. Make sure the plug and the threaded hole in the side of the water heater are clean before you replace the plug whether you use teflon, pipe compound or nothing.
Gene
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