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Old 07-03-2016, 06:36 PM   #43
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Why Michelin tires?

As far as the rib goes, I've heard that because of their construction they can be recapped and are suitable for commercial applications where recapping is a cost benefit.
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78 Tradewinds 25: considering replacing my 14" rims with 18" alloys using Michelin 245x60 latitude LT times, anyone see a problem?
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^^^^It may not fit in the wheel well.

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Link to post that explains differences between Michelin XPS Ribs, LTX M/S2 and LTX A/T2:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ml#post1485434

All are 10-ply rated, load range E, light truck tires with 3 steel radial belts. However, the LTX M/S2 and LTX A/T2 have a 2-ply polyester casing (sidewall), while the XPS Ribs is 1-ply steel.

The current price for the XPS Rib is around $250, while the others are $175-180.
Thanks, that post reminds me that, in my impression, the Rib is intended mainly as a summer road tire, not the other way around, and that it does not do well in snow, mush, sand and gravel. I will check tomorrow on the other threads I mentioned earlier.

That post is two years old BTW, and I believe that Michelin's line-up of tires has changed almost entirely since that post was written.

Best to check with your tire dealer for sizes, specs and availability.

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I have had both LTX and Ribs.The Ribs ride just as well as the LTX.Both perform equally well in the rain and snow.On gravel the Ribs do not hold gravel in the tread as much as the LTX.
I have 25,000 miles on the Ribs and they show no wear.When it comes time to replace it will be the Ribs that I install.They are both good tires but the Ribs are better suited for my application with a higher quality build and thicker sidewalls.


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The Ribs are also rated for trailer use. The ltx m/s are not. The ribs have a steel casing and are made for commercial use the Ltx are not, the list goes on.
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The 15" GYM ST225/75R15D tires are rated 2,540 pounds @ 65 psi and are 28.3" in diameter. The 16" Michelin LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2 tires rated 2,680 pounds @ 80 psi and are 29.2" in diameter. The 16" Michelin is on the right in the left photo.

The 15" Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL (prior generation to the new Defender series) is sidewall rated 2,183 pounds @ 50 psi but must be derated to 1,985 pounds for trailer use and is 28.9" in diameter. That tire is on the right in the right photo. Max payload is at 41 psi and we carry 44 psi on the 23D (which we upgraded from the stock 14" GYM ST215/75R14C rated 1,870 pounds @ 50 psi and was 26.7"in diameter) as well as on the former 25FB.

In both photos, the GYM tires on the left had only the mileage on them from the factory to the dealership and then to my storage unit. The Michelins were brand new.
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Tpms

By the way, with all of the money everyone is throwing at tires and wheels, I think a tire pressure monitoring system is the first place to start. For instance, for under $250, TST makes a nice system, the TM 507. It mounts externally on each tire valve stem, so it is very easy to install and program. The in cab read out then "rotates" between each tire and gives you the pressure and insurance. It will alarm you if you have a problem and indicate the tire that is overheating or losing pressure. It won't indicate every problem with your tires, but it will give you a heads up on a lot of them. Cheap insurance. Not much more than the cost of one LTX.
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The Ribs are also rated for trailer use. The ltx m/s are not. The ribs have a steel casing and are made for commercial use the Ltx are not, the list goes on.
The XPS Rib tire is a light truck rated tire and is NOT rated for trailer use.

http://www.michelinrvtires.com/tires...!/info/xps-rib

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BTW, in reference to my earlier post about tire pressure monitoring systems, here is a link to RV Great Products. Chip, who is runs the site, is super helpful and basically specializes in selling the various TST TPMS systems.

Of course, there are other brands and you can always opt for the in tire units also. Dill is a very popular brand.

The spin on type basically replace your valve cap, they spin on to a point and then using a provided tool (this helps to make them theft resistant) tighten down. The also make an on the valve type that allows you to fill the tires with air, but they stick out a bit. Removing the sending units to put air in the tires only takes seconds more than it does to spin off the normal valve (of course you don't have to worry about checking the air as the info is right on your dashboard in the receiver). The weight they add to the tire is very negligible. They also have replaceable batteries that last about a year with constant use or longer if you take the units off the tire (that shuts them down) between trips or say over the off season. IIRC they have a 3 year warranty.
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By the way, with all of the money everyone is throwing at tires and wheels, I think a tire pressure monitoring system is the first place to start. For instance, for under $250, TST makes a nice system, the TM 507. It mounts externally on each tire valve stem, so it is very easy to install and program. The in cab read out then "rotates" between each tire and gives you the pressure and insurance. It will alarm you if you have a problem and indicate the tire that is overheating or losing pressure. It won't indicate every problem with your tires, but it will give you a heads up on a lot of them. Cheap insurance. Not much more than the cost of one LTX.


This is exactly what I use.

I did get metal valve stems, though. And removed the outer 'shell' that contains the locking mechanism to reduce weight further, on each of the sender units.
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The Dill TPMS Sensors are mounted inside the tire and have their own metal valve stem that protrude out of the tire. We used model 1506-453 on both the 23D and the Classic along with the appropriate Centramatic wheel balancers.
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The Dill TPMS Sensors are mounted inside the tire and have their own metal valve stem that protrude out of the tire. We used model 1506-453 on both the 23D and the Classic along with the appropriate Centramatic wheel balancers.


Good to know.

I might go that route on a future trailer, but for now, I'm happy with the service provided by the TST system and external sensors.

Sure would be nice to have them inside the tires, though.
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The TSST also has inside sensors available. You can buy the external system and then when you decide to remove your tires you can spend the money on the internal sensors. That's my plan.
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