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Old 12-31-2010, 01:40 AM   #1
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Eddie Bauer AS uses Michelin Tires?

I read that the new Eddie Bauer Airstream uses "oversized Michelin Tires".
Michelin Tires | RVbasics News and Eddie Bauer Airstream

Anybody know which tires these are, what are their weight ratings and are they suitable for other Airstreams (will they fit other AS models)?
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Looks to be a Load range E, 16" from this web site Colonial Airstream - New 2011 Airstream Eddie Bauer Limited Edition Travel Trailer. BTW nice looking wheels on the rig.
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Chris Burch at Airstream told me they were Michelin M/S LTX LT225/75 R16, Load Range E. The wheels are styled aluminum 16". The Airstream dealership in Alachua, Florida tells me they are about $1800 for 5 inclusive of tax, shipping, balancing, etc, etc. Most Airstreams have adequate clearance for the change from 15" to 16".
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Thanks.

That is exactly the information I was hoping for.
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Those styled aluminum 16" wheels sure look like Tredit T03 wheels which are actually Sendel wheels that Tredit distributes. The wheels that some have had done at the service center look like Tredit TR4 Mod wheels.

Rant mode on. No carpet is a build option. Why aren't 16" wheels a build option? It seems so lame to have to take the Airstream over to the service side to swap out wheels or do it when the Airstream is delivered. Why aren't Disc Brakes a build option on the Classics? I believe the service side now uses Dexter actuators with Kodiak discs. It is a waste of money to redo things that should be options.

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I've experienced my third tread separation using Marathons ... two of those separations resulted in $2000+ in damage each. I know this is a hot topic on here and I'm not really wanting to participate in a tire debate. However, I have decided to convert to Michelin and 16" wheels. My wheels will be the exact same wheels that came from the factory on my 2004 International CCD ... they'll just be 16" instead of 15". I am not certain of what wheels are on the Eddie Bauer ... that's just how Chris Burch phrased it to me (as best I recall ... I was more focused on the tire specs than the rims). I'll try to get specifications from JD Sanders in Alachua, Florida regarding the 16" wheels I'm getting.
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We bought the 16" wheels from the service center at Airstream. Since the OEM wheels looked bad—the clear coat was coming off—we worked out a deal. I picked up the same Michelins at Discount Tires in Dayton that Airstream is using now. They only offered Goodrich Wranglers when I did this. Airstream mounted and balanced the Michelins for me and took the Marathons off our hands.

I don't remember the exact price of anything, but it was several hundred less than that Florida dealer wants. Part of the difference is I got a good deal on the wheels.

My advice is to find a good discount tire dealer and they should be able to get the proper wheels—make sure they are 0˚ offset for recent Airstreams. They will get you a better price on the tires and wheels. Since we made the change, we are happy with the performance of the tires and the wheels still look good. They are a lot easier to clean than the spoke wheels. The style is that used on more expensive Airstreams from time to time.

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We bought the 16" wheels from the service center at Airstream. Since the OEM wheels looked bad—the clear coat was coming off—we worked out a deal. I picked up the same Michelins at Discount Tires in Dayton that Airstream is using now. They only offered Goodrich Wranglers when I did this. Airstream mounted and balanced the Michelins for me and took the Marathons off our hands.

I don't remember the exact price of anything, but it was several hundred less than that Florida dealer wants. Part of the difference is I got a good deal on the wheels.

My advice is to find a good discount tire dealer and they should be able to get the proper wheels—make sure they are 0˚ offset for recent Airstreams. They will get you a better price on the tires and wheels. Since we made the change, we are happy with the performance of the tires and the wheels still look good. They are a lot easier to clean than the spoke wheels. The style is that used on more expensive Airstreams from time to time.

See the photo below.

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You've done exactly what I am trying to accomplish. I also see you might have monitors. I could save a couple hundred piece-meal ... but I left my Airstream 500 miles away near my incident and think I'm okay with what they are charging for five wheels/tires, inclusive of labor, tax, shipping, etc, etc. Yours look great! BTW, my family was in the trailer parts, service and repair business before my father retired ... what you've done will make your trailer safer to tow. Thank you for sharing pictures and info.
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Yes, 28', we have a TPMS system and you can see the sensors (monitors). We also have Centramatics to provide better wheel balancing.

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saw one sitting in the Jackson center store a couple of days ago. Had a 16 inch wheel with michlen and a 16 inch wheel with Goodyear Wrangler. I think one was $331, the other $313.
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We bought the 16" wheels from the service center at Airstream. Since the OEM wheels looked bad—the clear coat was coming off—we worked out a deal. I picked up the same Michelins at Discount Tires in Dayton that Airstream is using now. They only offered Goodrich Wranglers when I did this. Airstream mounted and balanced the Michelins for me and took the Marathons off our hands.

I don't remember the exact price of anything, but it was several hundred less than that Florida dealer wants. Part of the difference is I got a good deal on the wheels.

My advice is to find a good discount tire dealer and they should be able to get the proper wheels—make sure they are 0˚ offset for recent Airstreams. They will get you a better price on the tires and wheels. Since we made the change, we are happy with the performance of the tires and the wheels still look good. They are a lot easier to clean than the spoke wheels. The style is that used on more expensive Airstreams from time to time.

See the photo below.

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What air pressure do you run at with your wheel/tire combination and do you have your axle weights on your trailer? I am contemplating going to 16s as I need new tires anyway, but need to gather some additional info.
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Greeting, sort of neighbor (75 miles):

The maximum GVWR of our trailer is 7,300 lbs. Thus 1,825/wheel.

Your Excella has the same GVWR.

After looking at tables, I came to the conclusion 68 lbs. was proper for each tire.

Airstream put in the maximum the tire can hold—80—but I reduced it. To me that's like loading your truck to the max because you can.

There are several sites where you can find how much a specific size and type of tire can support for different pressures. Tire Rack has a lot of information on their website.

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Greeting, sort of neighbor (75 miles):

The maximum GVWR of our trailer is 7,300 lbs. Thus 1,825/wheel.

Your Excella has the same GVWR.

After looking at tables, I came to the conclusion 68 lbs. was proper for each tire.

Airstream put in the maximum the tire can hold—80—but I reduced it. To me that's like loading your truck to the max because you can.

There are several sites where you can find how much a specific size and type of tire can support for different pressures. Tire Rack has a lot of information on their website.

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Crawford, gateway to the Black Canyon north rim, driven it a few times...nice!
I'll check the sites and tks for your conclusion
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Just to follow-up, in January I paid JD Sanders in Alachua, FL $338.67 total for each tire/wheel inclusive of tax, shipping, balancing, etc. Total for 5 was $1693.35.

Gene, thanks for the posts and pictures that helped me make this decision ... I'm really pleased. Also, thanks for the tire pressure info.

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new 28 international...16" wheels/michelins

i am trying to order a trailer through CCII in buda, tx and talking about 16" up grades with michelins and

number 1...they seem to indicate one needs different axles than with the 15" wheels that come standard?????????????????????

number 2 quoted me $4.673.oo

any thoughts
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i am trying to order a trailer through CCII in buda, tx and talking about 16" up grades with michelins and

number 1...they seem to indicate one needs different axles than with the 15" wheels that come standard?????????????????????

number 2 quoted me $4.673.oo

any thoughts
If you did pay that much, be SURE that you retain the originals to sell and recoup some cash (it seems like you're not inclined to pay it, and I'd agree.) They're either trying to discourage you from making the change, trying to make money on both ends of the transaction or both.
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no way

but does it really require an axle change???????
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i am trying to order a trailer through CCII in buda, tx and talking about 16" up grades with michelins and

number 1...they seem to indicate one needs different axles than with the 15" wheels that come standard?????????????????????

number 2 quoted me $4.673.oo

any thoughts
Lots of thoughts—

If you need upgraded axles, why did Airstream's service dep't install 16" wheels and tires on my trailer without telling me I needed new axles? They have done the same for quite a few other Forum members without recommending changing axles.

If the cost was really four dollars and 63 cents, I'd take it, but I think you hit the period key instead of the comma.

Part of that quote was for axles I assume. Did they break it down for the price of wheels and tires?

I'd think seriously about going to another dealer.

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FWIW, I called Airstream and Dexter both about the axels on my 2004 28' CCD. They both said there is no reason for me to change axels. Actually, Dexter "chuckled" and said my axels were more than adequate.

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Quote from the Mothership this past week for 16" wheel AND Michelin 225/75/16E tire upgrade is $329 plus tax, per wheel/tire combo, installed.
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