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05-27-2014, 01:35 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gmw photos
GoodYear Wrangler HT ?
load range D LT
215/75-15, 2096 pounds at 65 psi
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GoodYear Cargo G26 ?
load range D Commercial LT
225/70-15 2470 pounds at 65 psi
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I would use the cargo G26 on a newer airstream and the Yokohama RY215 on an older trailer.
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05-28-2014, 03:47 AM
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CapriRacer
I'm in the
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 991
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimAspinwall
It appears my lingering question is 'answered' - I COULD use 235 75R15 Michelins as alternatives to the native 225 75R15 on my trailer... yes? ....
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I think we need a bit more information.
Like what Load Range are the ST225/75R15's.
Like what does the vehicle tire placard say about size and inflation pressure?
Also, what about the GAWR's?
Have you weighed the trailer? If so, what were the results?
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05-28-2014, 06:36 AM
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Retired.
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Just an FYI for those that haven't been RV ing long enough to have learned firsthand: LT tires were what was originally used on travel trailers, long before ST tires were invented.
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05-28-2014, 07:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1998 31' Excella 1000
1979 23' Safari
Mooresville
, Indiana
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 598
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I joined the Michelin club today, 4 new 235/75 R15 LTX M/S2 tires. Manufacture date of 13/14 and Made in the USA! The tow home was only 5 miles so hard to tell how they will do on the Interstate.
Damon
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05-28-2014, 07:05 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2011 27' FB Classic
Masontown
, West Virginia
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 77
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Pondering
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Just an FYI for those that haven't been RV ing long enough to have learned firsthand: LT tires were what was originally used on travel trailers, long before ST tires were invented.
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Hmmm? That was also a time when manuals and recommendations were written by engineers, not attorneys. With all respect for attorneys, the corporate fear syndrome has reduced recommendations for using anything designed more for self protection than of value to the end user.
Now, back under my rock.
Bill
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05-28-2014, 07:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Safari
Fountain Inn
, South Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 714
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I having been running Michelin P235 75 15XL tires for a year now (about 10,000 miles). I am extremely happy with them. My trailer is a 2002 Safari 25. Tire capacity well exceeds trailer loaded weight.
Do your research on Air Forums about these 15" XL tires there are a number of posts about them by Capri Racer and Andrew T from Can Am.
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05-28-2014, 04:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,943
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Decision has been made. Had a very nice and professional phone call last night from the head of consumer relations at Airstream in Jackson Center. He explained how the Michelins on the Eddie Bauer came about and that Michelins 16" will be standard on all Classics in 2015. Lots of other details as it was a fairly lengthy conversation - again very nice and professional and very helpful.
New Sendel T03-66655T 16" wheels ordered and should be here on Monday, tires will be in on Friday Michelin LTX 16" 235x75R Load Range E and all will be installed on Wednesday of next week in time for a quick one week trip. Then in August the "retirement" trip east to west and north to south.
Thanks for input, help and advice.
Respectfully
Bud
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05-28-2014, 04:48 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,412
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I'm somewhat curious. Was the Eddie Bauer a test bed for the feasibility of switching? I think Airstream has listened to their owners and lost confidence with the Marathons on the heavy trailers. I'm sure the many posts here on the forum have fed back to management along with new purchasers placing orders for tire swaps.
Jack
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AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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05-28-2014, 05:27 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
K.C.
, Missouri
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 585
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcanavera
I'm somewhat curious. Was the Eddie Bauer a test bed for the feasibility of switching? I think Airstream has listened to their owners and lost confidence with the Marathons on the heavy trailers. I'm sure the many posts here on the forum have fed back to management along with new purchasers placing orders for tire swaps.
Jack
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One would hope that for what this brand sells for, that good sense prevailed, and the decision was made to stop cutting corners on such an important item.
We have horse trailers, and I can tell you that when you start getting into the pricey brands, you start seeing LT tires as fitted from the factory.
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05-28-2014, 05:39 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,618
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Quote:
Originally Posted by damonbeals
I joined the Michelin club today, 4 new 235/75 R15 LTX M/S2 tires. Manufacture date of 13/14 and Made in the USA! The tow home was only 5 miles so hard to tell how they will do on the Interstate.
Damon
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Welcome to the club. I have the exact same ones on my trailer.
Sent from my XT1080 using Airstream Forums mobile app
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05-28-2014, 06:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,943
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcanavera
I'm somewhat curious. Was the Eddie Bauer a test bed for the feasibility of switching? I think Airstream has listened to their owners and lost confidence with the Marathons on the heavy trailers. I'm sure the many posts here on the forum have fed back to management along with new purchasers placing orders for tire swaps.
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I was told last evening that no the switch to the Michelins and 16" on the Eddie Bauer was at the direction of the Eddie Bauer brand when AS went into a partnership with EB. So, AS found the 16" wheel EB would like and bought the Michelins, but not from Michelin. I was also told both in email and on the phone that the Goodyear marathons are considered excellent tires by AS otherwise they would not be on the AS trailers, but that they must be used in accordance with how Goodyear stipulates they be used (I paraphrased this last part as I don't recall the exact words used in our phone conversation. But they like the Marathons, I don't so I've made the switch prior to another trip).
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05-28-2014, 06:50 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
K.C.
, Missouri
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 585
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paiceman
I was told last evening that no the switch to the Michelins and 16" on the Eddie Bauer was at the direction of the Eddie Bauer brand when AS went into a partnership with EB. So, AS found the 16" wheel EB would like and bought the Michelins, but not from Michelin.
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Ha ! that sounds like a very skillfully crafted statement that allows them to continue using ST tire on their other models !
Otherwise, buyers of ST equipped trailers could say, "you have seen the light with the Ed B, so why don't you fit better tires to all models ? "
Don't you love it when marketing folks get together with management, and the legal staff.... ???
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06-03-2014, 02:22 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1993 34' Excella
Portland
, Maine
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AtomicNo13
What are triple axle owners saying about the Michelin retrofit? At the rate of wear on the #3 axle, I want a tire that will last a few miles.
I'm seriously thinking of trying bias plus for a go around.
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I'm running 7.00 x 15 LT's on my triple axle now, but looking for new tires. I've done extended North American travel and had a number of flats but never a blowout or catastrophic failure with the LT's. I suppose I'm leaning toward the Michelin 235/75/15 LTX M/S2 option at this point. I know of several other members who are using these on triple axles and have been recommended by CanAm.
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06-03-2014, 03:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2009 25' FB Classic
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I also installed 4 new Michelin 235/75 R15 108 on my 25' Classis. Had an blowout useing Airstream Goodyear ST 225/75 R15. ST MAX speed is 65mph, Michelin speed 118mph, load 2200. Within my 10% safe zone with these new tires. Don't worry about building up speed on the down hill drives
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06-04-2014, 08:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2009 25' FB Classic
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 850
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I had a blow out on my 25' 2009 Classic, with GYM ST 225/75 R15. We were very lucky, no damage to my trailer. Purchased 5 new Michelin LT P 235/75 R15 XL 108. The manager of the Discount Tries store was very one way about me using Carlisle 10 ply ST tires. I yet think after reading the Airstream Forums and other forums on tires, the ST does not fit my needs due to the speed limit of 65 mph on the tire. Yes I know about LT tire sidewalls vs ST side walls.
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06-04-2014, 08:43 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Julie-Bob
I had a blow out on my 25' 2009 Classic, with GYM ST 225/75 R15. We were very lucky, no damage to my trailer. Purchased 5 new Michelin LT P 235/75 R15 XL 108. The manager of the Discount Tries store was very one way about me using Carlisle 10 ply ST tires. I yet think after reading the Airstream Forums and other forums on tires, the ST does not fit my needs due to the speed limit of 65 mph on the tire. Yes I know about LT tire sidewalls vs ST side walls.
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LT radial sidewalls appear stronger to me than ST radials!
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06-04-2014, 09:26 AM
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Rivet Master
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Mantua
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Lt is light truck, p is passenger Xl is heavy duty passenger. Which did you gave installed.
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06-04-2014, 09:29 AM
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Rivet Master
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Mantua
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Not all ST tires are at only 65 mph. Depende on ply ratings, etc,. Jim
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06-04-2014, 10:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zigzagguzzi
Not all ST tires are at only 65 mph. Depende on ply ratings, etc,. Jim
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I've NEVER seen an ST tire that was not restricted to 65 MPH. Can you show me a link to one that is not?
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06-04-2014, 12:00 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 Argosy 28
Euless
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 338
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Michelins and Discount Tire lifetime warranty
I purchased four Michelin 235/75 R15 LTX M/S2 tires for my '77 28' Argosy (6200# loaded) at Discount Tire in Lubbock Texas and they not only mounted them but sold me their lifetime replacement warranty. I specifically asked if it would cover the tires for trailer use and was told it was not a problem.
I told the sales man specifically not to jack it up under the axles and waspretty PO'd when I caught them doing that. I made sure to observe everything after that and will always do so in the future.
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