Buying Carlisle tires (Unless y'all stop me, lol)

[RedBearded]

Hi All,

Within a day or two of getting a set of 6 Carlisle Radial Trail HD 10ply tires for my 1989 34' Limited. I have bought a set of ceramic balance beads and a good TPMS as well. I also plan to request metal valve stems for the TPMS reliability. Have I missed something in my analysis of tires pros and cons and gone down the path less taken?

The trailer has a set of 15" alloys and I'm loathed to change to 16's before I need to, so I'm thinking about going with the Carlisle's. Part of my reasoning is that the construction of the tires is not a bias ply but is a standard radial. I also can get them in a 10 ply which makes me feel a bit safer for when I need to do some sharp turns on my long ass trailer, lol.

[Action]

The reason to go to 16" wheels would be to gain greater load capacity. To understand what load capacity your towed load needs one would need to weigh the trailer. (by individual wheel would be best)

Once you know how heavy the load you are towing you can solve the question of how much tire is needed.

Or just move to a much greater tire capacity (over kill) and not think about the numbers.

>>>>>>>>>>Action

[RedBearded]

Thank for the input! I'm already figuring on being way overkill on the load rating these tires are rated 117 or 2833lbs each. I have 6 of them on the trailer so 17K load capacity for the tires. the GVWR of the trailer is only 8900. Is going this overkill a bad thing?

[TouringDan]

Look at the Goodyear Endurance. It is the latest tire from Goodyear and seems like the load capacity is higher. Good luck.

Dan

[n2916s]

I had a set of Carlisle load range D ST tires on my Sovereign 10 years ago. They all failed catastrophically within 10000 miles.

In fairness, it is ten years later and you are looking at load range E. Things change...

I have the Goodyear Endurance now but only 500 miles on them so all I can attest to is that they balanced easily and the ride seems nicer (clothes stay on the hangars...).

The Marathons they replaced had 4 years and about 24000 miles on them. None of the failures others have reported but 4 years is just about my comfort zone for trailer tires.

[RedBearded]

I checked out the Goodyear's and it looks like they have the same load index of 117 as the Carlisle's. It's roughly $50 more overall for the Goodyear's is there a reason to go with them over the Carlisle's? I don't have a preference either way but I know that a lot of people were having issues with the Marathons from Goodyear.

Thanks for all the input

[TouringDan]

Originally Posted by RedBearded

I checked out the Goodyear's and it looks like they have the same load index of 117 as the Carlisle's. It's roughly $50 more overall for the Goodyear's is there a reason to go with them over the Carlisle's? I don't have a preference either way but I know that a lot of people were having issues with the Marathons from Goodyear.



Thanks for all the input

I am no expert but I get the impression that the Carlisle ST tires have been just average tires and an old design. The Endurance is a new tire. It may end up being a much better tire than the Carlisle. I don’t think it would be any worse. I would spend the $50. This is a no brainer decision for me.

Dan

[crispyboy]

I previously had Carlisle Radial Trail tires on the trailer. The first set in 2010 thru 2012 went bad (dry rot between the treads). Carlisle warrantied them with 4 brand new ones. I had good service from the second set of Carlisle Tires.
In 2017 I put on the Good Year Endurance tires because they were updated and made in a US factory. I also purchased a Carlisle tire for the spare since it was half the cost of the Good Year. The Carlisle tire was upgraded in 2017 also. The newer Carlisle seemed much more substantial than the old Carlisle tires. Carlisle tires are still made in China.
A 16" LT tire is still probably the best choice but the extra rim purchase makes this option spendy. Carlisle would be my third choice since it is made by the Chi-coms. If I were you I would opt for the Good Year and keep the 15" rims.

[Lumatic]

I have Carlisles. The dealer told me that some years ago there was a quality problem but that problem has been resolved.

[Mollysdad]

I had Carlisle on a tow dolly.
It sat for years and when I sold it, I cleaned it up and it looked great! Those tires take a beating because there's no suspension. If there's no car, they recommend 25 psi, with a car they recommend 50 psi. The sidewall is the spring! There's no spare!

As far as I know, the new owner is still using it to tow his Prius.

THOSE Carlisle's were fantastic!

[RedBearded]

I ended up going with the Carlisle's. They dropped dramatically (from $96 to $67) in price which led to about a $350 difference for 7 (spare included).

[CRH]

I have had Carlisle Radial RH tires on my AS for 3 years. No complaints.

[aftermath]

10 years ago is a long long time when it comes to tire improvements. I have a set of Carlisle HDs on my trailer and after two years and 9000 miles they still look great. The hardly lose any air even after winter storage.

Mine are LRE and rated at 80mph. These tires have come a long way from where they were. My Airstream is much smaller than yours so I don't know how much cushion you have with weight ratings. Make sure you have enough.

[PKI]

Beads get into the valve stem. Normal to install screens to prevent valve cores from jaming open. Tire experts at shops that maintain tires, which use the balance beads can help. Hearsay info, unfortunately. Good luck with your upgrade. Pat

[RedBearded]

Thanks all for the input!

Aftermath, I should have plenty of headroom for loading as the trailer only maxes out at 8900, and I have 3 axles. I do appreciate hearing someone with the same tires I'm getting providing some feedback

[TexAirS]

I have 18 months and around 10,000 miles on my Carlisle tires with no complaints. The tread looks great and the TT is out of the sun. My previous experience is with boat trailer tires. Dry rot before tire wear.

How many miles can I expect on a set of trailer tires?

John